steo on 17/10/2007 at 15:59
The plot in Oblivion isn't good at all, it's balls. It's there because a game like that can't get away without having one. To me it feels more like they made the game and then invented a plot to fit in with what they had made. The characters, right up to the most important ones, all seem completely soulless. There are a few good parts to some of the quests but I would liken the plot more to Icewind Dale than to the Baldur's Gate series.
Jason Moyer on 17/10/2007 at 19:07
Considering Icewind Dale > Baldur's Gate I'd agree with that comparison.
swaaye on 18/10/2007 at 20:25
The mod community for Oblivion can really overhaul the experience immensely. Oscuro's Overhaul mod is one major place to start, but there are lots of little extras that improve the world.
It is still flawed though. They made some very strange decisions with their series this time. The leveling is obviously the worst move. The AI was way overhyped. It's also a very lonely game because basically you are on your own for just about everything. As the leader of certain guilds you can get helper people, but they aren't really all that special or useful.
The game certainly looks good though and you get an enormous level of freedom. That freedom can feel rather empty at times though because of how static the world actually is.
I like the game. It's a hint at what games could be if we could get hugely better AI and a better group of RPG designers.
charlestheoaf on 19/10/2007 at 06:17
Some of the stories of the smaller quests are very interesting. The Dark Brotherhood quest line and the missing painter quest come to mind.
Angel Dust on 21/10/2007 at 03:41
Quote Posted by steo
The plot in Oblivion isn't good at all, it's balls. It's there because a game like that can't get away without having one. To me it feels more like they made the game and then invented a plot to fit in with what they had made. The characters, right up to the most important ones, all seem completely soulless. There are a few good parts to some of the quests but I would liken the plot more to Icewind Dale than to the Baldur's Gate series.
Hmm I never liked the way the story relates to the game in Icewind Dale at all so thats not good.
~s:a:n:i:t:y~ on 21/10/2007 at 11:10
One thing I understood is, I should never count on other peoples opinion. I wouldn't buy many games I loved if I did listen to others. A detailed review of the game might help more, but still it won't guarantee you much.:erg:
Angel Dust on 24/10/2007 at 01:58
I would never make a decision to buy or not to buy a game based soley on one persons view but if alot of people with similar tastes to me say something about a game that I really don't like then it is a factor. Since games are quite expensive for me I have to weigh up the pros and cons by any mean necessary. Yes it's possible I have passed over games that I might have liked due to reviews/opinions/concept but I have also never purchased a crap game at full price. Sometimes I pick up a cheapee that's rubbish but that's OK.
It works the other way too. I purchased Psychonauts due to all the love people have for the game around here and other forums. I have always been a fan of Tim Schafer but I wasn't really into platform games but I gave it a chance due to the praise and I would now easily consider it one of the best games of recent years.
In regards to the thread topic I am pretty sure that I will buy Oblivion at some stage. When the price reaches a certain point and I have some spare cash and time I'll most likely get it.
Huckeye on 24/10/2007 at 23:29
I recommend you play vanilla Oblivion first. I never thought Morrowind could ever be better than it was the first time I played it and had many fond memories of my first experience with it. Then I found mods and when I go back and play it now the first thing I do is install the mods and wonder how on earth I managed to play the game the way it was without the mods. I guess I know what to appreciate now, having played it through once before messing with it. Also keep in mind, that many mods change game preferences. You might not like someone elses preference and fault the game if you don't know how it played before you changed it.
I had fun with Vanilla Oblivion too, but I'm afraid its the product of mass market. Complex games are seen as risks, I think, and therefore instead of choice, we get compromise. Whats sad to me is that game complexity could be scalable just like difficulty is with the defaults even being set to the common denominator. But I guess I am just wishing.
I'll admit, too, that Oblivion suffers a little from purism. I just like Morrowind and I don't understand some of the changes they made. If I can step back for a moment, I know Oblivion really is a good game though. I'd recommend it.
steo on 28/10/2007 at 23:09
Playing vanilla Oblivion is suicide, I didn't get past the prologue before installing BTMod.
And don't let me convince you that Oblivion isn't a good game, because it rocks. It just has its flaws, most of which are due to its attempt to appeal to a mass market and the xboxification of the game. Mods can fix this to a large extent but I agree that instantly installing a load of mods before you play may be a bad idea - first work out what you hate about oblivion and then find something that fixes it.
Infidel on 31/10/2007 at 00:31
Quote Posted by ES Fan - AnnoyingFan
This is the best Elder Scrolls game. But yes, Buy the game. You wont regret it.
The best in the Elder Scrolls series is Daggerfall. Compared to it Oblivion looks like a fantasy theme park.
