Kalit on 15/4/2006 at 03:40
Yea... I wish it would have made money.. I want a second season of Firefly dammit!
Scots Taffer on 15/4/2006 at 04:11
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HOW THE HELL DID THIS NOT MAKE MONEY?!?!? :eek: :nono: :tsktsk: :mad: :(
fanboy masturbation commencesThis is why: it was a movie made for fans of the TV show. Period. It came about because of the fans, and it exists solely for the fans. It is a final send off for the characters and a poignant farewell to the series - and there was also the vague and half-hearted attempt to make the movie palatable to a mainstream audience, but it
was vague and half-hearted. As a result, unfamiliar viewers were not drawn in enough and therefore didn't get the emotional payoff that long-term viewers did.
This was a film for the fans, that's why it didn't make that much money. So get the fuck over it and just enjoy the movie, it wouldn't have existed
at all if it hadn't been for the fans.
oudeis on 15/4/2006 at 04:33
here's an idea- save the insults and the insolence and the facile characterizations for those people who directly attack you. don't kick sand when others aren't kicking it on you.
Scots Taffer on 15/4/2006 at 05:04
I fail to see where I insulted you (not to mention facile characterizations hahah waht), since your fanboytastic response is seeking to turn the reasonable discussion about a good film that followed up a damn fine TV show into a rant about funding, blockbuster merit and tangental comparisons with films with absolutely fucking immense followings, such as Revenge of the Sith. THIS THREAD HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE AND BACK.
And I was only trying to illustrate that this movie really doesn't have the mass-market appeal that die-hard fans seem to think it has - just because it shared some elements in common with the Star Wars prequels doesn't even begin to put them in the same league.
Note: In terms of quality, I think Serenity far surpassed Revenge of the Sith - no doubt about it. However when it comes to fan following and international appeal and respect, we all know who's the horse to bet on.
oudeis on 15/4/2006 at 05:28
Quote Posted by Scots_Taffer
THIS THREAD HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE AND BACK.
hence the disclaimer in the title of my post.
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And I was only trying to illustrate that this movie
really doesn't have the mass-market appeal that die-hard fans seem to think it has - just because it shared some elements in common with the Star Wars prequels doesn't even begin to put them in the same league.
never said it was, or that it had the same appeal. but enough people have posted that they found the movie accessible without having seen the series that l think the film appealed to viewers not in whedon's gravity well. l've never compared the story elements of sith and firefly because they are apples and oranges.
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Note: In terms of quality, I think
Serenity far surpassed
Revenge of the Sith - no doubt about it. However when it comes to fan following and international appeal and respect, we all know who's the horse to bet on.
this is indisputable. however, this does not preclude my lament that something with as much potential as the firefly universe died a quick death. l'm sure you can name many actors, movies, or directors who never got the chance you wish they had, and twice as many of the same that you hated that got the tribute of the world heaped at their feet. just because it's life doesn't mean l have to like it.
Fafhrd on 15/4/2006 at 05:31
Furthermore, it was MARKETED as a movie made for the fans. They mentioned the cult following of Firefly in the fucking trailers for gods' sakes. When you say "BASED ON THE CULT HIT TV SERIES WITH MILLIONS OF FANS" average Joe McPublick is only going to think "oh, so it's one of those Star Trek nerd things, fuck that."
Not to mention that they gave the movie away, over and over and over again in the weeks leading up to release. There were at least three seperate free preview test screenings in my city alone, and a week after that they had the fanboy paid ticket screenings. By the time the movie was actually released, the majority of the people that were interested in seeing it already HAD. That's why I never bought a ticket and saw it in the theatre. While I thought it was great and all, I simply couldn't be arsed to pay money to see it a second time, when movies like "A History of Violence" were being released a week later.