Stitch on 13/10/2005 at 18:51
The $39 to $40 million budget is pretty well documented.
mol on 13/10/2005 at 20:03
Quote Posted by Stitch
Contrary to popular belief in this thread, I don't think DVD sales are as of yet the magic heal-all answer.
Well, you're wrong there. They pretty much are. Not only them, but also videos (yes, the good ol' VHS is still kickin', although not for long), pay-per-view, pay tv, cable, airline movies, and syndication all contribute significantly to the overall revenues. Box office is only a part of the total revenue. Already in 2000, according to a report by ABN Amro investment bank, global box office accounted for only 26% of a film's total revenue. I don't have the latest figures, but it's a safe bet that it hasn't gone up. It's either gone down, or stayed more or less on the level.
Furthermore, according to some reports, of the revenues generated at the box office, the studio may initially take as much as 90% in some cases, but towards the end of the movie's box office run, this may change to 10% for the studio and 90% for the cinema owners. Starting from the premiere, the studio's take of the box office revenue is on a decreasing trend. That has to be balanced out somehow.
Box office isn't as significant a source of revenue as one might think. Most of the money comes from other distribution channels. And DVD is growing all the time.
Stitch on 13/10/2005 at 20:52
Quote Posted by mol
Well, you're wrong there.
I'm not saying DVD sales don't provide for a significant portion of a film's income, I'm simply saying they aren't the magic heal-all answer. With very few exceptions, films that fail at the box office but recoup costs through DVD sales simply aren't granted full-budget theater sequels. My hunch is Hollywood views a box office bomb with high DVD sales as a bad blind date that ends with a satisfactory handjob--it's not a complete waste but nobody is eager to repeat the experience, either.
With the new proliferation of home theaters and DVD sales we may eventually see this change, but I doubt it--I'm guessing we'll just see higher production values on niche straight-to-DVD films.
Low Moral Fiber on 13/10/2005 at 21:01
Quote Posted by Stitch
My hunch is Hollywood views a box office bomb with high DVD sales as a bad blind date that ends with a satisfactory handjob--it's not a complete waste but nobody is eager to repeat the experience, either.
Finally, an analogy I can get behind.
or reach around
Fuckin wrong color box.
mol on 14/10/2005 at 06:24
Quote Posted by Stitch
I'm not saying DVD sales don't provide for a significant portion of a film's income, I'm simply saying they aren't the magic heal-all answer. With very few exceptions, films that fail at the box office but recoup costs through DVD sales simply aren't granted full-budget theater sequels.
It's true that a film's success at the box office plays a significant factor in how well a movie does in other distribution channels. If a movie totally bombs, it isn't likely to do as well in the ancillary markets as it otherwise would have, and that of course has an impact on the studio execs willingness to finance sequels. If the film enjoys only modest, or some success at the box office, a sequel may still be funded because of the ancillary market incentive.
Master Villain on 14/10/2005 at 07:58
Quote Posted by oudeis
sans whedon's somewhat-disturbing-at-this-point fixation on uberwaifsOh good, I'm not the only one who noticed.
Deep Qantas on 14/10/2005 at 13:20
Quote Posted by Stitch
With very few exceptions, films that fail at the box office but recoup costs through DVD sales simply aren't granted full-budget theater sequels.
TV series that get cancelled after 11 aired episodes don't get made into feature films. :D
Renegen on 14/10/2005 at 14:40
Quote Posted by Stitch
With very few exceptions, films that fail at the box office but recoup costs through DVD sales simply aren't granted full-budget theater sequels.
Hehe, this quote is funny. Show me a few movies that turned a good profit at the box office, go. This comment of yours is a bit ignorant about how the movie industry works.
Stitch on 14/10/2005 at 15:22
Quote Posted by Deep Qantas
TV series that get cancelled after 11 aired episodes don't get made into feature films. :D
And with Firefly's failure, I doubt studio execs will make the same mistake twice.
Quote Posted by Renegen
Hehe, this quote is funny. Show me a few movies that turned a good profit at the box office, go. This comment of yours is a bit ignorant about how the movie industry works.
What the hell? There's nothing all that controversial about my comment. I think you're reading more into it in some limp attempt to feel superior. I'm not talking about near misses, guys, or movies that do respectable but don't quite make back the cost of budget and promotion. I'm talking about box office
failures.If a movie bombs at the box office, regardless of DVD sales studios are going to be reluctant to fund a box office sequel. What is so difficult to understand here? This <I>may</I> change in the future, but as of yet I haven't seen it.
Renegen on 14/10/2005 at 15:53
Quote Posted by Stitch
And with Firefly's failure, I doubt studio execs will make the same mistake twice.
What the hell? There's nothing all that controversial about my comment. I think you're reading more into it in some limp attempt to feel superior. I'm not talking about near misses, guys, or movies that do respectable but don't quite make back the cost of budget and promotion. I'm talking about box office
failures.If a movie bombs at the box office, regardless of DVD sales studios are going to be reluctant to fund a box office sequel. What is so difficult to understand here? This <I>may</I> change in the future, but as of yet I haven't seen it.
Define box office failure smart-ass, practically no movie turns a profit at the box office.
