the_grip on 19/6/2008 at 04:31
i'm tellin' you guys, if you like Summer, and you like Sci Fi (moreover), you need to see the aborted Firefly series. If nothing else, the Serenity movie is pretty good.
icemann on 19/6/2008 at 10:02
All of Firefly and Serenity are pure art. Excellent excellent stuff. Should never have been cancelled.
Angel Dust: Yep Odyssey 5. Thats the one.
Vivian on 19/6/2008 at 10:16
Ok, I've only watched the serenity movie, but why does everyone love it so much? All I saw was TV-movie acting, a generic plot and a script barely two notches above Relic Hunter. Am I missing some sort of point? Do you have to be in love with Joss Whedon or something? Or just incredibly grateful that its not star trek?
Mindyou, some people like farscape and that had a main character with gonads on his chin. Nuff said.
Muzman on 19/6/2008 at 10:31
No, it just doesn't really work like that. I had much more fond memories of Firefly before I eventually saw the film. The show is very good and pretty much everything about Whedon's approach to characters and plotting works better there. There just didn't seem to be much reason to cancel it; it was good, it was building an audience and going places. People's ire about its cancellation seems to make it more than what it is, but now we've got all these high budget and popular series and Firefly was different than all of them and could have been in there on the ground floor. It seems somehow unjust, that's really all it is.
The first couple of episodes went to such lengths to distance the show from Star Trek in funny ways (usually involving sex and violence, but also going to the toilet) that it really got my attention. It really paved the way for the rough and ready style of Battlestar, but with more jokes. Much of the Western-in-Space aspect is played down in the film as well, but that's a big factor in the show's charm for me.
Scots Taffer on 19/6/2008 at 10:32
Firefly is some really well conceived, snappily written and interesting sci-fi, Vivian. I highly recommend it. Serenity was a weakish if entertaining movie follow-through, in my opinion, and is not representative of the general quality of the TV show.
Vivian on 19/6/2008 at 10:36
So I should shut up and watch the series? Well, its worth a shot. I'm getting into the original Macross ATM (awesome, by the way. Shows Robotech up for the non-sensical hack-job it is), but I've got some spare time while I'm waiting for the dvds to arrive (it was never released in europe. Isn't that shit?).
Thirith on 19/6/2008 at 10:52
Serenity is also improved by having seen the series, I'd say. You develop a relationship with the characters in the series, and the film builds on that.
redrain85 on 20/6/2008 at 03:12
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
So actually you agree that most of them are dumb then.
Like I said, Connor Chronicles ain't perfect. But the people involved seem to be trying hard. By the end of its short first season, they'd won me over. With a little more effort, I think the show really can be great.
Meanwhile, T4 still sounds like it's going to be utter shite.
Fafhrd on 20/6/2008 at 04:00
I only watched the finale of Sarah Connor Chronicles, but the 'in the pool' shot for the FBI's shoot out/slaughter with Garrett Dillahunt terminator struck me as a really clever way to do an action setpiece on a low budget, and probably the purest statement about what the show
is (a family drama with killer robots from the future in) that they could have possibly made. I'll maybe be on board for a couple of episodes of season 2.
Journeyman is the only show on dj's list of the year's cancelled sci-fi that I really wish were coming back. Every episode was pretty much entirely standalone, but with enough bits of season long arc peppered in in clever ways (the twenty dollar bill that he uses in the past in one episode, for instance) that the whole thing added up to slightly more than the sum of its parts. Plus Kevin McKidd is greatness. But it also didn't end on a massive cliffhanger (*cough* Surface *cough*), so it can stand well as it's own series.
Day Break doesn't count as 'cancelled' since it was intended to be a self contained one season show from the get go.
Quote Posted by Muzman
The books always assumed that if shit's going back in time, we've basically won
This was stated outright in The Terminator. The resistance had destroyed Skynet's central core and the war was over.
icemann on 20/6/2008 at 04:29
And its highly recommeded to watch Firefly before you see the movie.
