SubJeff on 2/11/2020 at 21:50
Quote Posted by Thor
P.S. When a woman is being an absolutely unreasonably cunt, giving her a little slap is indeed the way to handle it properly. Nowadays in the west, it wouldn't work too well as the power levels have been completely skewed in the woman's favor, but out of pure morality and understanding of the said behavior, you're still the winner.
This is one of the most insane things I've seen posted on TTLG, and this is in thread with june gloom writ large lol
Thor on 2/11/2020 at 22:08
Quote Posted by SubJeff
This is one of the most insane things I've seen posted on TTLG, and this is in thread with june gloom writ large lol
Now I'm curious, are you outraged that I suggested that slapping someone of the tender gender is insane (if we're being sexless about it, a guy slapping a guy in a bar (or wherever) or woman slapping a man or woman slapping a woman) under certain circumstances, or my observation of the modern times in the west, where a woman can say she's been done wrong in whatever way and just use the hashtag #metoo and a man's career is destroyed almost assuredly (unless the woman is *too* insane and the man is just too legit like that incident where some idiot tried to frame Neil DeGrasse Tyson of all people)
Kolya on 2/11/2020 at 22:20
Slapping an unspecified they/them is fine I think.
Nameless Voice on 2/11/2020 at 22:25
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Oh yeah, abusing women is faaaaar worse than murdering people because of their political leanings. Of course of course.
Being a Nazi is not a political leaning.
Being a racist is not a political leaning.
Being a bigot is not a political leaning.
Any argument made from such a flawed starting point is invalid, because it's a dishonest argument being made in bad faith.
"Is it okay to kill a murderer?" is a valid debate (personally, I think "generally, no"); claiming that a person murdering an innocent is a political leaning and then rephrasing that question as "Is it okay to kill someone for their political leanings?" is not.
Kolya on 2/11/2020 at 22:57
I agree with the sentiment, NV, but I don't find these points particularly convincing.
Sure, Nazi is not a political leaning that should have a place in any democracy among other not blood-thirsty political leanings. But claiming it's not a political leaning seems like a helpless attempt to make that distinction.
Because it is de-facto part of politics, among other hateful ideologies. And politics have never been limited to peaceful and civilized endeavors.
Also most of today's Nazis have probably never actually murdered someone. Their ideology makes them want to. But unless they did the deed, they're not murderers.
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you. But we need more refined arguments against Nazis than these. You could call it a murderous ideology, or hate-politics. And then I might agree that SubJeff should have qualified it as such, if SubJeff wasn't obviously arguing against political murder already.
tl;dr semantics
SubJeff on 2/11/2020 at 23:04
I wasn't even talking about Nazis, because I think modern Nazis don't really have any of the political qualities of the original Nazis, and anyone who says they are a Nazi now is just a hatful hollow bigot, aren't they?
I'm talking alt-right, and I think there's some distinction, no?
SubJeff on 2/11/2020 at 23:06
Sean Connery walks into a bar....
...and sits down beside a very attractive woman.He gives her a casual look then looks at his watch for a moment. The woman notices this and says "Is your date running late?".
"No" he says. "Q has given me this shtate of the art watch and I was just testing it."
The woman is intrigued and says "What is so special about it?" Bond explains "It shpeaks to me telepathically using alpha waves."
The woman says "Well what's it telling you now ?"
Bond says " It's telling me you're not wearing any panties."
The woman giggles and says "Well I think it must be broken because I AM wearing panties!"
Bond smirks, taps his watch again and exclaims "Bloody thing's an hour fasht....!!:
Kolya on 2/11/2020 at 23:07
Quote Posted by SubJeff
I wasn't even talking about Nazis, because I think modern Nazis don't really have any of the political qualities of the original Nazis, and anyone who says they are a Nazi now is just a hatful hollow bigot, aren't they?
I'm talking alt-right, and I think there's some distinction, no?
Well you had referred to this remark by gloom which included both Nazis and alt-right.
Quote Posted by june gloom
Maybe I'd be less depressed if all the Nazis and their alt-right fellows running around got the Wolfenstein treatment
SubJeff on 2/11/2020 at 23:39
Quote Posted by Kolya
Well you had referred to this remark by gloom which included both Nazis and alt-right.
Quote Posted by SubJeff
And your comment about the alt-right... I mean what kind of homicidal desires are these?
If you actually read what was posted things might make sense to you? Ja?