Nameless Voice on 2/11/2020 at 14:14
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
We used to have a bloke here that was a lot worse.
His screenname was Dethtoll [...]
Luckily he's gone.
June Gloom used to be dethtoll, in case you didn't know.
Briareos H on 2/11/2020 at 14:14
Quote Posted by JarlFrank
Hey, I'm not the one constantly wallowing in misantrophy and expressing some sort of happiness/gratitude (he won't be missed, about time that dinosaur hit the tar pit) over the death of a beloved actor because he was "misogynist" or whatever.
Not a fan of
Charlie Hebdo, I take it?
Gryzemuis on 2/11/2020 at 14:17
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
June Gloom used to be dethtoll, in case you didn't know.
Thanks for the confirmation.
I suspected it. But I didn't know for sure.
I've not been reading much in the "Member's Chat". Maybe if I had, it would have been more obvious.
PigLick on 2/11/2020 at 14:19
You know in defense of June Gloom, I used to be one of his strongest detractors, back in the day. But then I actually got to know him and you know what, I like him and he is quite often on the money with some of his viewpoints. So dont believe everything you read on the internet or something
Nameless Voice on 2/11/2020 at 14:24
As for Sean Connery, he was a good actor, really distinctive, especially with they voice and accent of his.
I mostly only watched his later films, such as his portrayal of Henry Jones, which were a lot less masculine than things like Bond.
I was never really interested in Bond for some reason.
No idea what he was like as a person. Most of those old British actors seem to go a bit funny in their old age, I've noticed.
June's post seems incredibly harsh to me, but I guess I don't know the context.
faetal on 2/11/2020 at 15:09
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
I guess I don't know the context.
[video=youtube_share;mzXkbJwrN38]https://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38[/video]
SubJeff on 2/11/2020 at 15:25
Quote Posted by raph
IMHO it was pretty clear, in a thread about Connery, that we were chiefly, albeit not explicitly, referring to
his tenure as Bond.
Yeah, that's not what I got from it. Seems blanket to me and as I say, the later Bonds are much much less promiscuous and misogynistic.
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I find the Craig/Bellucci scene in
Spectre quite uncomfortable to watch, for instance, and that's the latest one.
I don't remember what happened there, but I didn't like the film overall and haven't watched it again.
In any case, in terms of memorable performances, I second your Henry Jones choice, and I'll throw in his William of Baskerville in The Name of the Rose as a contender as well. Yes! Must watch Name of the Rose again.
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Let me know what you think about
Zardoz too, this will be an interesting experiment.
It's not on any of my streaming services :(
Quote Posted by icemann
Pre-me too movement, I'll bet many (straight) men wanted to be James Bond.
What has metoo got to do with? We recognised at school that Bond was terrible to women. I especially remember that Man With The Golden Gun scene because my gf's bff and I discussed it at some length when I was in 6th Form and 17! That was in the 90s! And that was Moore, not even Connery.
Kolya on 2/11/2020 at 16:03
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In 2012, the polling organization YouGov conducted a survey of US Bond fans, with a particular focus on their preferences for actors. Sean Connery led in all groups, which were categorized by age cohort, gender, and party affiliation. It found that 60% of Americans described themselves as fans and that fandom "crosses gender, party, and age lines." [...]
It found that 52% of the Facebook users who described themselves as Bond fans were female. [...]
Mark O'Connell published Catching Bullets: Memoirs of a Bond Fan in 2012, (
https://www.out.com/entertainment/interviews/2012/11/09/gay-bond-fan-tells-all) describing his fandom in the context of being gay.
Source: (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_fandom#Fan_demographics)
SubJeff on 2/11/2020 at 16:05
icemann - I'm talking Golden Gun, not Goldfinger.
Kolya on 2/11/2020 at 16:22
Just going by the content I would agree that Bond is a straight male power fantasy. But apparently many women and gay people can see the fun in it. So maybe this is more a question of taking things a bit too seriously.