Starker on 4/11/2020 at 22:48
Yes, if you're being snarky, you're clearly problematic and can be lumped in with people who agitate for, and in some cases commit, literal mass murder. /s
Nameless Voice on 4/11/2020 at 22:56
Plus, you ought to know that I don't speak like that.
june gloom on 5/11/2020 at 00:56
Quote Posted by Kolya
You mean the one which in its first 30 secs drops these terms to describe a friend: white guy shit, secretly furry, normie.
Here's a protip: If this is the way you think about and talk to your friends, you are a part of the problem.
It's really funny how you took all of those to be an insult.
Judith on 5/11/2020 at 18:58
That was quite fascinating to watch, thanks.
Thor on 6/11/2020 at 15:36
Quote Posted by heywood
One thing I've learned over the past 4 years is that anyone claiming to be neutral, apolitical, or equally disgusted with both parties is in truth a closeted wing nut.
Yup. And to make it clear, since I showed here some empathy and respect towards Sean Connery, who leaned on conservative values, this would likely define me as a closeted right wing nut. Shucks, now I can't speak of David Bowie in a positive manner anymore.
Quote Posted by mopgoblin
What, are you too busy beating your wife?
Actually, she does the beating and I take it like a bitch, generally. Need to cook dinner for my wife soon.
SubJeff on 6/11/2020 at 15:48
You're a terrible person.
Thor on 6/11/2020 at 16:20
Quote Posted by SubJeff
You're a terrible person.
If I'm not taking this too personally and you are indeed addressing this to me: are you for real or just trolling man? Who would take such a blanket statement, without any explanation, at face value from a stranger on the internet? I would at least expect some kind of justification for that sort of attitude. Unless maybe you consider me an undeniable troll myself, which, given my non-far-left leanings, might seem as such, but it's really not. I just don't hold very strong opinions over political matters anymore, especially after my capitalism phase a few years ago (though I do still find it to generally be "the way to go", but there are significant caveats to address for that to be realistic). I dunno, if you hate someone enough to publicly call them a "terrible person", I would at least expect some argumentation as to why.
Marecki on 6/11/2020 at 16:57
Quote Posted by june gloom
It's really funny how you took all of those to be an insult.
Insults? Maybe yes, maybe no. Quick and convenient labels? Very much so. And while this might be the first time EVER I have agreed with Kolya here, someone who perceives people via labels
is part of the problem.
Something the above has just reminded me of: (
https://www.egscomics.com/?id=2045)
Starker on 6/11/2020 at 21:15
Look, he's not "labeling" this hypothetical friend person -- he's simply characterising him being as vanilla as people come by jokingly suggesting that maybe his biggest kink is that he's secretly a furry (20% chance). He's not saying, "What a furry" or, "He must be a furry". He's just making a joke in a snarky way.
Furthermore, with all the content in this video (people being radicalised and committing horrific acts of violence), this is what you get hung up on and use to dismiss it? A casual joke?
june gloom on 6/11/2020 at 21:25
@Marecki:
You are thoroughly, colossally, willfully missing the point. This isn't about "labels" (and anyway the kind of people who complain the most about labels are just mad that we have more words to describe ourselves as human beings. Complaining about labels is a tactic meant to silence queer people because there's so many ways to identify and that upsets the boring.) It's about quickly constructing an image of a certain kind of person: young, white, male, into some nerdy shit, doesn't think much about politics, maybe a bit isolated. If you think that's an insult, then what the fuck are you doing here then?
Listen: Kolya is a 40-something-year-old adult person with willfully incoherent politics who earnestly argues that being an asshole is what drives discussion and once threw a tantrum because I told him to stop using slurs for trans women. He's a dork who lives on bad faith arguments and agreeing with him just makes you wrong too.
