PigLick on 11/6/2020 at 18:26
ah Mr Bezos so thats your game
bassoferrol on 11/6/2020 at 20:03
Everbody knows that yellow race has an IQ superior to white race and no problem.
Everybody knows that white race has an IQ superior to black race and I´m a racist.
And now I realize thanks to a bunch of ignorant and idiots that Cristobal Colón was a racist and a slaver.
Renzatic on 11/6/2020 at 20:17
The fuck?
Renault on 11/6/2020 at 20:27
Vacation time!
heywood on 11/6/2020 at 21:50
Quote Posted by bassoferrol
And now I realize thanks to a bunch of ignorant and idiots that Cristobal Colón was a racist and a slaver.
Does Spain have a holiday in his honor? And did you really come to that realization just now?
Pyrian on 11/6/2020 at 23:52
Quote Posted by bassoferrol
Everbody knows that yellow race has an IQ superior to white race and
no problem.
...you're a racist.
Sulphur on 12/6/2020 at 03:49
Quote Posted by icemann
He has being sarcastic there.
No, (
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148163&p=2369861&viewfull=1#post2369861) he wasn't.
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What is and isn't racist is another subjective one, and changes with time.
And no, it isn't. This is wrong.
Just because cultural norms allowed something to happen doesn't make it not racist. This isn't a matter of increased sensitivity over time, it's a matter of knowing that it's wrong and doing it anyway regardless and the amount of pushback to that attitude increasing over time. I know this tendency to overlay 'it's a friendly joke' over something or make it a communal affectation (for an entire fucking country no less), but that's really always an excuse to say something socially inappropriate and get away with it.
The litmus test is would the race in question actually,
really like being called that? If the answer is no, then stop doing it. That's not a sentiment constrained by the time period you live in - the human race didn't evolve empathy in just the last 50 years.
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I worked in call centers from 2001 - 2009 and often worked with people on work visas from other countries and they always got deeply offended if they would hear those words used, since in their countries those words were straight up racist.
That should have clued you in far better than anything else.
Sulphur on 12/6/2020 at 04:01
No, I'm saying that it's not relative in any way, shape, or form. Racism is racism whether it was okay in your country a hundred years ago or not, end of. Trying to justify it by saying cultural or social normalisation allowed for it therefore it wasn't racist back then is either incredibly poor thinking or a sign of warped values.
Sulphur on 12/6/2020 at 04:11
Oh, I've been called a 'fucking Paki' and a curry by people from Oz and NZ, both of which were inaccurate and amusing to me. (To clarify: I'm not calling you out, bob_, we've got a special relationship <3).
Did I take those in stride and move on? Sure. Did it make those instances okay? No. Not at all.
Sulphur on 12/6/2020 at 04:36
I'm saying you're incredibly wrong, though, and I doubt I'm alone in that.
You can't justify using the n-word today in any social context for a white person to call a black person that without being railed on by basically the entire planet today. You know why that is? It's not because it suddenly became wrong to say it. It's because it took years and decades to help people (and by people I don't just mean white people, but a whole bunch of everyone who isn't black) understand that it was
always wrong.
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If we were to disallow every word and thing that is deemed racist somewhere, then we'd have no words left.
If you're serious about this, then you must have a seriously limited vocabulary.
The rest of your post is whataboutism. Other religious contexts aren't what we're talking about, that's quite possibly the worst analogy you could have chosen: go ahead and call a Muslim woman a 'curry' and see if she's offended or not.
We're talking about understanding basic decency when dealing with people, and when it comes to race there is no relative context for
this specific topic. So do your thing and go 'meh whatever'.