PigLick on 11/6/2020 at 14:55
history has always been silenced and negated, that isnt anything new
Renzatic on 11/6/2020 at 16:11
I think what Warner did with their old Looney Tunes is the way to go. Acknowledge the issues contained therein by addressing them in a disclaimer, but otherwise let them be.
As much as I hate leaning on the "...but it's HHIIIISSSTOOORRRY" argument, due to it being grossly misused and abused to defend some pretty shitty stuff, these cartoons and movies are our history. We shouldn't hide them away or destroy them.
Thirith on 11/6/2020 at 16:14
Does this mean that HBO and Netflix are under any obligation to show them on their platforms?
Renault on 11/6/2020 at 16:43
Of course not, but if that is the only reason they are being pulled, then it should legitimately open them to criticism, and the move should be questioned.
What's next, are they going to pull The Godfather for the way it portrays Italian Americans?
Renzatic on 11/6/2020 at 16:46
Nope. It's their service, privately owned. They can air or cancel whatever they want, and are under no obligation to pander to anyone they don't want to pander to.
Though we can bitch about their reasoning all we want to, set up petitions to draw attention to whatever issue we take exception to, and choose to spend our money elsewhere if they continue to ignore us.
It's the American way!
PigLick on 11/6/2020 at 16:50
its incremental steps, first netflix, then fucking public libraries. A year later and its fulltime simpsons reruns on every single media outlet.
is this really the way you want the world to end?
Renzatic on 11/6/2020 at 16:56
No, that's a slippery slope.
Right now, we're in the midst of a little social upheaval, and we have people on all sides of the issue kneejerking, and overreacting about everything. I can almost guarantee you that by this time next year, we'll have Gone with the Wind and the rest back on the streaming services, with the only change being a few disclaimers added to them beforehand.
Renzatic on 11/6/2020 at 16:58
NO DOUBLE POSTING!
When you double post or more, than means more work for me. And I hate work!
Also, I'm well aware of the hypocrisy I'm putting on display here, but I have the power, and intend to abuse it.
Thirith on 11/6/2020 at 17:05
Quote Posted by Renzatic
I can almost guarantee you that by this time next year, we'll have Gone with the Wind and the rest back on the streaming services, with the only change being a few disclaimers added to them beforehand.
Which is what I'm hoping will happen, more or less. (Instead of the disclaimers, I'd prefer e.g. an intro by a film historian.) But I'm also perfectly okay with the likes of Leni Riefenstahl's propaganda pieces being curated and made available by film historians* but not being on the Netflix catalogue, however much she contributed to the aesthetics of film. And I don't think that
Birth of a Nation needs to be streamed on Amazon Prime because otherwise, will no one think of history?
*Criterion has a collection
100 Years of Olympic Films which includes Riefenstahl. They provide information and context and approaches. I don't think there was a big hullabaloo, because it's done in a responsible way that is sensitive to what these artefacts are and what they represent.
Renault on 11/6/2020 at 17:21
They've already announced that the movie will be back next week, with some type of introduction. Of course, they wouldn't want to miss out on all that revenue since GWTW is now the #1 bestselling movie on Amazon.