Nicker on 13/6/2020 at 19:42
Quote Posted by Jeshibu
Biden is the least bad out of a horrible choice. Trump needs to lose, but Biden will at best try to return to pre-Trump policy. That's not good enough. Let's not do it.
There's a Gordian Knot of a sentence. How does Trump lose without Biden winning? Or did you mean, let's not let the Dems squander a victory by sustaining a corporatist agenda. Apparently holding their feet to the fire with protests and activism is a good start but re-electing Trump to spite Biden would be disasterous.
Quote Posted by PigLick
this is happening in Australia as well, and even though the government and charities spend millions of dollars on this issue, nothing changes, and its not the indigenous communities fault either. So where is all this money really going?
Many reasons for that here. The offered funds are insufficient and/or targeted at the wrong solutions. Communities are so isolated that even simple solutions are multiples more expensive than they should be. Relocating these communities, even if they were established as part of the "gentle genocide", is seen as a cultural imposition. There are four "stolen generations" of abuse survivors and their collective suffering is being passed to their children, as evidenced by sickening rates of child suicide in indigenous people. Many adults in these communities are simply overwhelmed by challenges that residential schools denied them the skills to tackle. The symptoms of this abuse creates the conditions that are used to perpetuate the stereotype of the "lazy Indian", and justifying calls to stop "throwing money" at the problem.
It doesn't help that the imposed system of elected chiefs and councils is even more susceptible to corruption than the one which imposed it. Outside oversight is seen as imperialism and a lot of money never gets to the people who need it most.
It's a real Gordian Knot.
Jeshibu on 13/6/2020 at 20:19
Quote Posted by Nicker
There's a Gordian Knot of a sentence. How does Trump lose without Biden winning? Or did you mean, let's not let the Dems squander a victory by sustaining a corporatist agenda. Apparently holding their feet to the fire with protests and activism is a good start but re-electing Trump to spite Biden would be disasterous.
It was a poke at Gryzemuis. I'm out of practicality in favor of Biden winning.
I'm not sure that a Biden victory would be a good thing long-term, since it's a message to the DNC that people WILL swallow their shit and like it. Obviously a Trump win is disastrous for the next 4 years and probably much longer than that (Ginsburg will probably die sometime soon and Trump would get to replace her). Basically I think that the first-past-the-post delegates system has forced a choice between a steaming turd and a manure pit.
Obviously voting for the turd is the right thing to do in this situation. My "that's not good enough - let's not do it" remark was a jab at Gryzemuis.
TL;DR: yes, agreed.
Renzatic on 13/6/2020 at 22:23
Quote Posted by Kolya
And now: Screen art.
This offends me.
Tony_Tarantula on 14/6/2020 at 12:51
Quote:
It doesn't help that the imposed system of elected chiefs and councils is even more susceptible to corruption than the one which imposed it. Outside oversight is seen as imperialism and a lot of money never gets to the people who need it most.
It's a real Gordian Knot
It's not complicated.
You punish Racism so hard that people never want to be racist ever again.Nicker on 14/6/2020 at 15:28
:rolleyes:
Sulphur on 14/6/2020 at 15:35
If we give him a gr8 b8 m8 award, do you think he'll go away?
Renzatic on 14/6/2020 at 15:44
Maybe we should just start agreeing with him so he'll think his totally not at all stupid sociopolitical experiment was a complete success.
faetal on 15/6/2020 at 14:58
Quote Posted by Sulphur
If we give him a gr8 b8 m8 award, do you think he'll go away?
I say leave him to it. Watching someone who thinks they are really smart playing what they think is 4D chess is adorable.
[EDIT]I'd bet good money that he's making weekly reports of his master plan to subvert libs in some dark incel-infested corner of 4Chan.
catbarf on 16/6/2020 at 13:26
Quote Posted by faetal
[EDIT]I'd bet good money that he's making weekly reports of his master plan to subvert libs in some dark incel-infested corner of 4Chan.
Not sure if you're aware, but he outright said in one of the political threads that he posts hyperbolically pro-liberal stuff on Facebook groups to test if anybody will disagree with or counter him. Then concludes that because nobody does so, they're all insulated nutters and not just, y'know, people who don't want to engage with crazy/bait.
Tony_Tarantula on 16/6/2020 at 14:50
Quote Posted by catbarf
Not sure if you're aware, but he outright said in one of the political threads that he posts hyperbolically pro-liberal stuff on Facebook groups to test if anybody will disagree with or counter him. Then concludes that because nobody does so, they're all insulated nutters and not just, y'know, people who don't want to engage with crazy/bait.
Whatever. What I was was a fundamental truth and not radical.
Also yes, 4-chan is totally worried about a forum with like ten dudes who regularly post on political stuff. TTLG is a huge hub of political influence worth infiltrating with those ten dudes!
