Matthew on 12/12/2008 at 11:07
So at what point do you believe people are no longer worthy of the title and can be treated like paindolls for amusement, then? Murderers? Embezzlers? Jaywalkers?
Thirith on 12/12/2008 at 11:29
Quote Posted by massimilianogoi
They were not people, but scundrels, scum! So they essentially deserve this threatment...
I wonder whether this is a language issue, but you basically sound like the worst kind of Daily Mail-type reactionary (or a parody thereof). "String 'em up by their nuts and torture them, the scum!", that sort of thing.
(Has anyone ever used the word 'scum' in a non-ironic way that had anything worthwhile to say? Except Obi Wan, of course.)
EvaUnit02 on 12/12/2008 at 11:48
A good proportion of Italian cinema was made as cheap, disposable entertainment for domestic consumption. Just look at how incoherent a lot of the highly regarded films by sacred cow cult filmmakers are, Fulci's Zombie Flesh Eaters anyone?
P.S. No offense is meant by any generalisations, they're solely used to hypothesize a possible reason behind the OP's opinion.
massimilianogoi on 12/12/2008 at 13:38
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
A good proportion of Italian cinema was made as cheap, disposable entertainment for domestic consumption. Just look at how incoherent a lot of the highly regarded films by sacred cow cult filmmakers are, Fulci's Zombie Flesh Eaters anyone?
P.S. No offense is meant by any generalisations, they're solely used to hypothesize a possible reason behind the OP's opinion.
I have not seen that film,although I head speaking about. Yes, here in Italy we are full of sh*t in the cinema, and there's alot of recommendations, and the actors were not talented, as in the infinite series of "Cine Panettone"... this is disgusting boys, and I am the first to be disgusted, although italian.
Exception done for some Dario Argento's movie.
Rogue Keeper on 12/12/2008 at 15:37
I saw no saw! :D
Really, should I? Are these films innovative in any way?
ercles on 12/12/2008 at 18:17
No, they aren't even the most brutal in their genre (I believe Hostel has them beat in that respect). And as far as inventive ways to die, I think Cube wins in that respect as well, and is an infinitely more interesting movie to watch.
massimilianogoi on 14/12/2008 at 01:38
Quote Posted by BR796164
I saw no saw! :D
Really, should I? Are these films innovative in any way?
Yes! :D Do it!
There's very amusment, guarantee!!
Certain scenes are properly a must see!! A katharsis in my opinion, like when the motel rapist get brutally killed. More than deserved end. Or that one with the acidhead who killed the John's son... knives on rough's face :ebil:
rachel on 14/12/2008 at 08:44
The first one was mildly okayish, and the surprise ending iirc was actually a good one.
The sequels... :eww:
