lowenz on 17/7/2022 at 18:51
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lowenz, I could name you also in honor of western :p
Can you rephrase? (I read it as a compliment)
I think I know russian culture better than the average russian, you're speaking to one of the last fans of Bogdanov and Vernadsky.....
CIA acted as a "sect" no more no less than your (yeah, now thanks to Yeltsin and Putin you must accept it)
Ochrana.
The difference between Russia and USA is that sect in USA is confined to its work, in Russia (and I deliberately say "Russia" and not "Russian Federation") is merged with the government AND the army. Well, GRU and FSB are literally the *GLUE* between Putin and the army where the "oligarchs" are the Versailles Court to show to the world the russian economic wealth (better: "richness" far exceeding the western counterparts). They're simple agents, but not so important. It's why they can suddenly.....die, with their families.
lowenz on 17/7/2022 at 19:21
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How do you differ from the above example from Starker about Alex Jones? Only with a different polarity.
Main achievement of Trump that he was able to become some free against general line.
But you are given freedom only after one white bastard
unbreathed one black nigger and only that elected cruel "democratic"
hawk who with Nuland organized the overthrow of the government in Ukraine... sorry,
revolution of dignity"Useful idiots" are not a conspiracy theory elements, they are real and nearly always totally unaware to be useful to foreign power politics, just like many vetero-communists or Anti-UE sovranists here in Italy.
Trump was a puppet of his own family, that's why you can see Jared Kushner acting as a "delphin" or "pupil". The only goal of having Trump as a president was to polarize USA 'cause strong men are hypnotic and just do the "magic". And a magnificent narcissist is just perfectly fitting for the role.
The same way a schizoid strong man in perfect for Russia (or a Messiah for Israel) 'cause they act as an "
ultimate protector" by their own psychic nature.
About the "Maidan Revolution" (not the real one CIA was interested in, the Orange one, see Juscenko in 2004) you know that Poroshenko and Zelensky are not so friend one to eachother? But neither have the "hooks" in the western world like Juscenko did?
Silentor on 17/7/2022 at 19:33
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Yes, the United States produces propaganda. That is not a shocking revelation.
For me yes, because our liberals stigmatized
propaganda as total bad word (foo-foo, only from kremlins)
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Russian interference with the 2016 election was documented in an FBI report.
In Russia we have an expression "sew a case"
Quote Posted by lowenz
Can you rephrase? (I read it as a compliment)
In honor of Sergio Leone's movies.
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They're simple agents, but not so important. It's why they can suddenly.....die, with their families.
About whom you are?
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you know that Poroshenko and Zelensky are not so friend one to eachother? But neither have the "hooks" in the western world like Juscenko did?
Didn't understand about "hooks".
Orange Revolution beginning against corrupt but her results oligarchs took himself.
And Poroshenko with Kolomoysky not friends.
lowenz on 17/7/2022 at 19:46
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In honor of Sergio Leone's movies.
Oh, spaghetti
WESTERN, we got a comedian here.....
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About whom you are?
Oligarchs and high level state-linked companies managers (Gazprom, Gazprombank, etc.)
lowenz on 17/7/2022 at 20:10
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Didn't understand about "hooks".
Directly from wikipedia......I must teach you the basics of "
devilish NATO" ?
Kateryna Yushchenko was born Catherine Claire Chumachenko in Chicago to immigrants from the Left-bank Ukraine. She is a former U.S. State Department official.You can thank me now!
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Orange Revolution beginning against corrupt but her results oligarchs took himself.
And Poroshenko with Kolomoysky not friends.
So where is this "nazi regime" if the reality is a big media owner (Kolomoysky is just like Berlusconi here in Italy) running the show? Some soccer hooligans adopting the Wolfangel symbol when they created some paramilitary groups painting *SLAV* Kolovrat (not the german Black Sun) around? DAMN, real nazis.....not only Zelensky is jew. Kolomoysky is jew. Azov, Dniepr and other "far right" (=just antirussian) paramilitary battalions are literally born as ultras groups of jew-owned soccer teams and maybe directly financed by them at some extent.
Clearly "NAZIS" (in Lavrov fantasy world, maybe just tell Lavrov that "antisemitic" is not equivalent to "antizionist" ) :D
Yes, they're like the american Proud Boys and somehow really similiar......but you really can call them "nazis" just because they've chosen Bandera as "hero" ?
On the contrary italian foreign fighters in Russia divisions are actually members of "official" neofascist party on the fringe of legality.
And they love Saint George (just less then Saint Michael, you know, real fascists can't choose a man over an ARCHANGEL as symbol of power)
lowenz on 17/7/2022 at 20:35
Ah, this is an italian ex-soldier fighting for "nazi" Ukraine: (
https://www.instagram.com/giuliajschiff/?hl=it)
Read the name: Schiff.....she's jew (famous italian jewish family, of course persecuted when Mussolini accepted to impose racial laws). Damn, all these jews fighting for Nazism, Hitler would be ashamed!
And all those cars moving in the wrong direction on the highway.....
Silentor on 17/7/2022 at 21:52
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You can thank me now!
Thank you... That showed to all us that Jews and Nazis are not mutually exclusive concepts. And there is a parallel with the 20s of the 20th century when influential Jewish magnates also supported the formation of the NSDAP. In their case, against
commies.
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but you really can call them "nazis" just because they've chosen Bandera as "hero"?
YEEEES
Starker on 18/7/2022 at 04:59
Haven't watched his Youtube channel for a while, but looks like the Australian defence procurement analyst has made quite a few other powerpoint slide presentation style videos. Here's one on why Russian army hasn't performed as well as was expected:
[video=youtube;i9i47sgi-V4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4[/video]
Silentor on 18/7/2022 at 12:56
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What is feared in the West is Russian reality.
Is Chinese reality. But in our country we have an unusual censorship, but not the kind that liberal agents of influence want to present it to you. It's a half-myth that we don't have access to information.
It's sad, that our useful idiots so idiots. But why follow in the footsteps of our justice by creating a sacred sacrifice (Navalny) and not just ignore this Lipp.
Main slogan of libertarians "No censorship" made a classic metamorphosis and came to his own authoritarianism.
In russian Wikipedia I wasn't even allowed to change
as though on
that. Why make such a dismissive emotional color in the official assumption of our Ministry of Defence about the causes of the explosion of the drama theater. You do not agree with the version about inner explosion or tank shelling, just to conduct an expert analysis of the consequences of an air bomb hit.
This video: truth with stupid memes
Silentor on 18/7/2022 at 13:25
An example of how our propaganda melted from "richness"
Simonyan decided to run ahead of the locomotive and posted this photo in which the main thing we see is an attempt to justify a strike in front of some business center with ridiculous circles around alived "naziks", thereby admitting murder of taxists and girl with mum which was torn off leg. Whereas even in ukrainian publics being discussed about absence of a funnel and why artillery shot down missiles right over the city (a parallel can be drawn with Donetsk)
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXoDC6ZXwAI8NiK.jpg