Silentor on 11/7/2022 at 19:54
Quote Posted by Starker
And likewise this invasion will shape Ukrainian-Russian relations for generations to come.
In a war there are no angels, but I don't see the Ukrainian army bombing hospitals, super markets and train stations in Russia.
Our drone showed that a supermarket in Kiev was used to store equipment and ammunition.
Two military targets were hit in Kremenchug. Between them was supermarket.
In Kramatorsk I see how the Ukrainian army sent Tochka-U above train station.
West experts rested on the fact that this rocket is still in use in Russian army but location of the tail section to the site of defeat very belittled
You also get the one-sided information as on our tv
lowenz on 11/7/2022 at 20:05
Quote Posted by Silentor
:wot: Why inhabitants of Donetsk must going to Kursk
Because the end will be the same, when Donbass will be totally destroyed thanks to "special friendly reunion".....people simply must go somewhere else, like in the no-more existent Mariupol.
Russian was so "banned" that every ukrainian speaks russian maybe better then ukrainian, thanks to tsarist repression and so on.
Not even talking about Stalin-era you clearly misunderstand (to reject Stalin and prefer
Putin tsarist praxis)
Stalinist policies shifted to define Russian as the language of (inter-ethnic) communication. Although Ukrainian continued to be used (in print, education, radio and later television programs), it lost its primary place in advanced learning and republic-wide media. Ukrainian was demoted to a language of secondary importance, often associated with the rise in Ukrainian self-awareness and nationalism and often branded "politically incorrect". The new Soviet Constitution adopted in 1936, however, stipulated that teaching in schools should be conducted in native languages.
Major repression started in 1929-30, when a large group of Ukrainian intelligentsia was arrested and most were executed. In Ukrainian history, this group is often referred to as "Executed Renaissance" (Ukrainian: розстріляне відродження). "Ukrainian bourgeois nationalism" was declared to be the primary problem in Ukraine.[46] The terror peaked in 1933, four to five years before the Soviet-wide "Great Purge", which, for Ukraine, was a second blow. The vast majority of leading scholars and cultural leaders of Ukraine were liquidated, as were the "Ukrainianized" and "Ukrainianizing" portions of the Communist party. Soviet Ukraine's autonomy was completely destroyed by the late 1930s. In its place, the glorification of Russia as the first nation to throw off the capitalist yoke had begun, accompanied by the migration of Russian workers into parts of Ukraine which were undergoing industrialization and mandatory instruction of classic Russian language and literature. Ideologists warned of over-glorifying Ukraine's Cossack past,[citation needed] and supported the closing of Ukrainian cultural institutions and literary publications.[citation needed] The systematic assault upon Ukrainian identity in culture and education, combined with effects of an artificial famine (Holodomor) upon the peasantry—the backbone of the nation—dealt Ukrainian language and identity a crippling blow.lowenz on 11/7/2022 at 20:13
Quote Posted by Silentor
You also get the one-sided information as on our tv
No, that's the core of "russophobia" shit. Here in Italy we got even more Putin lovers than you could ever imagine, and that's because we are the nation of mafia and Mussolini.....6/7 years ago we were SUBMERGED by Putin "greatest man alive" memes.....and a major party (Salvini's Lega) used to expose in their circles Russia Federation flag instead of its own.....
Of course it has been ALL carefully orchestrated by "someone" to make it seem natural, genuine love (using in that long-gone time an anti-islamic spin just bypassing all the prodigal son Khadyrov-related stuff): you can't expect any other things in this parody of society we got here.
Silentor on 11/7/2022 at 20:26
You have a strange dualism. By one side, you demand a strict canonical interpretation of the terms. But then throw them to left and right.
Quote Posted by lowenz
All nazi "elites" (elites like the ones now in Kremlin.....) were austrians/germans (and some helvetic italians). "Aryan archetype" was just propaganda.
You forgot one ingredient: Jewish juice (For Hitler, Gimmler, Gebbels 1/4 part) :thumb:
Silentor on 11/7/2022 at 21:50
Quote Posted by lowenz
Because the end will be the same, when Donbass will be totally destroyed thanks to "special friendly reunion".....people simply must go somewhere else, like in the no-more existent Mariupol.
Russian was so "banned" that every ukrainian speaks russian maybe better then ukrainian, thanks to tsarist repression and so on.
Not even talking about Stalin-era you clearly misunderstand (to reject Stalin and prefer
Putin tsarist praxis)
Buildings will be restored
Tsarist repressions were reflected in all regions in late 19-th as and stalin's in 30-s.
Ukrainian nationalists mentioned me judes: the whole history only around them rotate.
Russian language banned on state level. Ukrainian elite give all reasons to Putin for invasion ...oops... specoperation.
Putin completed the plan of Arestovich and now remaining Ukraine bravely eurointegrated and NATO justified its existence.
Westworld should thanksgiven padishah Putin :joke:
Starker on 11/7/2022 at 22:07
Quote Posted by Silentor
Our drone showed that a supermarket in Kiev was used to store equipment and ammunition.
Two military targets were hit in Kremenchug. Between them was supermarket.
In Kramatorsk I see how the Ukrainian army sent Tochka-U above train station.
West experts rested on the fact that this rocket is still in use in Russian army but location of the tail section to the site of defeat very belittled
You also get the one-sided information as on our tv
I get information from multiple sources, I don't rely on either local or Western news organisations as my sole source. Everything, from witness testimony to satellite images to video evidence to open source reporting backs up the fact that massive atrocities are being committed by the Russian forces.
Also, there is no equivalence between Russian and Western media. For example, Western countries generally don't jail critical voices, even if it's people like Chomsky. Meanwhile, Russia has outlawed even calling the war a war.
uncadonego on 12/7/2022 at 18:45
Putin is giving amnesty to prisoners to kill Ukrainians, I wonder if Mr. Registered This Month is getting paid a ruble per word! :laff:
lowenz on 12/7/2022 at 19:54
Quote Posted by Silentor
Buildings will be restored
Tsarist repressions were reflected in all regions in late 19-th as and stalin's in 30-s.
Ukrainian nationalists mentioned me judes: the whole history only around them rotate.
Russian language banned on state level. Ukrainian elite give all reasons to Putin for invasion ...oops... specoperation.
Putin completed the plan of Arestovich and now remaining Ukraine bravely eurointegrated and NATO justified its existence.
Westworld should thanksgiven padishah Putin :joke:
You can just call it "Donbass OCCUPATION+
Kherson region INVASION" (and that's the main problem, the Crimea as mediterranean fleet base)
Padishah and classic nobility work really different from "democratic" prokhanovist NEO-nobility.....you know Prokhanov and Izborsky Group, right? -> (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Prokhanov) / (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izborsky_club)
And don't let me start on Dugin too.....he was really near ukrainian fascists (the real ones, not Azov ex soccer ultras or "army boys" being the latter just like the american Proud Boys) in their "anticapitalistic" and "antiwestern" (=antiliberal) views just to become their russian archnemesis calling for their extermination when they choose to give to their nationalism the obvious antirussian traits.
lowenz on 12/7/2022 at 19:58
Quote Posted by uncadonego
Putin is giving amnesty to prisoners to kill Ukrainians, I wonder if Mr. Registered This Month is getting paid a ruble per word! :laff:
It's just like a normal italian during Mussolini times....."just feel strong thanks to
ALL SOCIAL STRATA COMPACTION" (or at least its perception in everyone fantasy.....that's plain basic fascism by book, but as I've said real fascism is not attainable in an orthodox country like Russia - nor Ukraine - 'cause fascism goal is the creation of a templar knight-like citizen with a mystic and spiritual traction.....but Russia really goes near that ideal, that's why our Forza Nuova guys - traditionalistic and conservative fascists - fight ukrainian "fascists" (they call them fake fascists of course) with russian army and our Casapound guys - revolutionary and socialist fascists - fight with ukrainian army)
