Sadovnik on 31/5/2022 at 21:20
As a Russian I feel very ashamed of my country's actions in Ukraine. I have a friend from Donetsk, a Ukranian border city which was shelled heavily by both sides.
lowenz on 31/5/2022 at 23:01
Quote Posted by Sadovnik
As a Russian I feel very ashamed of my country's actions in Ukraine.
....of your moscovite Versailles Court more than the country, 'cause nobody thinks ordinary russians are even interested in this. It's strictly a military/political elite move to achieve direct Black Sea control bypassing Ukraine and actually destroying your own future 'cause of the automatic sanctioning.
They're label us - I'm italian, and yes my little town 2 years ago got some of your appreciated but now somehow questionable COVID-19 help - "
russophobic" in the same but obviously simulated snarky manner of a clueless SJW (clearly reminding "homophobia" to mock the West with an alleged general "libtardism" ). Well, I must inform you that here in Italy the bigger admirers of Putin and this "neo imperial", prokhanovist ( (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Prokhanov) ) Russia are the REAL fascists, not some random ukrainians guys with a stupid fascination for Swastika or Nachtsonne nor UA nationalists equivalent ones: I mean the ones that in 2022, privately, are proudly saluting the Mussolini bust.....and just love "strong men" like Putin.
You can translate by yourself: (
https://www.milanotoday.it/politica/jonghi-lavarini-candidato-regione.html)
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I have a friend from Donetsk, a Ukranian border city which was shelled heavily by both sides.
Donetsk or Severodonetsk?
What they think of their "liberators" taking children and imposing conscription against their own friends and relatives? And I mean the russophile/russophone ones.
Is possible to "quantify" the UA shelling since 2014 but before this Romanov-era "reclamation" ? Just to compare the scale of destruction (hardly possible I presume).
Sadovnik on 1/6/2022 at 06:54
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....of your moscovite Versailles Court more than the country, 'cause nobody thinks ordinary russians are even interested in this. It's strictly a military/political elite move to achieve direct Black Sea control bypassing Ukraine and actually destroying your own future 'cause of the automatic sanctioning.
As I understand, our president Putler (Putin + Hitler = "Putler" as we call him in Russia) is very scared to loose power, because he knows people will eventually sue him for all his crimes. So he planned "a small victorious war" to draw nation's attention to. Now people forgot about Putin and corruption and everyone is only talking about war.
Those brave enough to protest are either in prison or were forced to leave the country. All western media is blocked, political opposition crushed. If I had money I would have also escaped, but I need to finish college first. There is nothing a small man can do against the military machine. All the opposition politicians are abroad.
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Donetsk or Severodonetsk?
What they think of their "liberators" taking children and imposing conscription against their own friends and relatives? And I mean the russophile/russophone ones.
Is possible to "quantify" the UA shelling since 2014 but before this Romanov-era "reclamation" ? Just to compare the scale of destruction (hardly possible I presume).
Donetsk, sometimes it's also called Donbass. Majority of the city are Russians of course, and they supported Russia at first, but after 8 years of poverty and unspeakable corruption under the Kremlin rule the whole city is basically a prisoner of war.
lowenz on 1/6/2022 at 07:39
Quote Posted by Sadovnik
Majority of the city are Russians of course, and they supported Russia at first, but after 8 years of poverty and unspeakable corruption under the Kremlin rule the whole city is basically a prisoner of war.
I don't think Hitler comparison is good, more like (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_II_of_Russia) (and Putin would be REALLY proud and excited of the comparison.....that's the problem)
However, in 1856, at the beginning of his reign, Alexander made a memorable speech to the deputies of the Polish nobility who inhabited Congress Poland, Western Ukraine, Lithuania, Livonia, and Belarus, in which he warned against further concessions with the words, "Gentlemen, let us have no dreams!"[39] This served as a warning to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The territories of the former Poland-Lithuania were excluded from liberal policies introduced by Alexander. The result was the January Uprising of 1863-1864 that was suppressed after eighteen months of fighting. Hundreds of Poles were executed, and thousands were deported to Siberia. The price of suppression was Russian support for the unification of Germany.[citation needed]
The martial law in Lithuania, introduced in 1863, lasted for the next 40 years. Native languages, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, and Belarussian, were completely banned from printed texts, the Ems Ukase being an example. The Polish language was banned in both oral and written form from all provinces except Congress Poland, where it was allowed in private conversations only.
Nikolay Milyutin was installed as governor and he decided that the best response to the January Uprising was to make reforms regarding the peasants. He devised a program which involved the emancipation of the peasantry at the expense of the nationalist szlachta landowners and the expulsion of Roman Catholic priests from schools.[40] Emancipation of the Polish peasantry from their serf-like status took place in 1864, on more generous terms than the emancipation of Russian peasants in 1861.[41]Thor on 1/6/2022 at 21:15
Quote Posted by Azaran
Oh man this is gold
[video=youtube;cTaI4e5twz0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTaI4e5twz0[/video]
Yeap that's a solid one, meme of the year potential. Short but oh so sweet.
lowenz on 2/6/2022 at 08:24
LULZ
lowenz on 8/7/2022 at 14:47
Why they can't understand that nobody will NEVER welcome the "liberators" bombing&burning civilians?
And they don't have in Ukraine some smartass like Kharydov in Chechnya to enforce it (what a farce is Chechnya, really a 2-ways farce). 'cause they already kill them too, like in Bucha, thanks to barbarics "soldiers" turned into marauders (DELIBERATELY)!
This war will never end AFTER the eventual treaties, really because it's a war between relatives.
Oh wait, the "Donbass liberation / denazification" is just a plain excuse to grant the Black Sea coast to Russia and more importantly to its tactical submarines.
Starker on 8/7/2022 at 15:10
Meanwhile, in Russia:
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https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-moscow-government-and-politics-235ad386cb40fe07357425fdfe6a80f2)
A court in Moscow sentenced a municipal council member to seven years in prison Friday for his remarks opposing the war in Ukraine. The unprecedented sentence raises the stakes for Kremlin critics in Russia who speak out against Moscow's invasion of its ex-Soviet neighbor.
Alexei Gorinov was found guilty of spreading “knowingly false information” about the Russian military, an offense that carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison under a law the Russian parliament rubber-stamped a week after the Kremlin sent troops into Ukraine.
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Gorinov criticized Russia's military actions in Ukraine at a municipal council meeting in March. A video available on YouTube shows him voicing skepticism about holding a planned children's art competition in his constituency while “every day children are dying” in Ukraine.
Photographs published by Russian media of a Friday court hearing showed Gorinov behind inside a glass-walled defendant's dock and holding up a sign that read, “Do you still need this war?” A bailiff tried to cover the sign with his hands.
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Gorinov refused to plead guilty, and he denounced the invasion again while giving his closing statement in court Thursday.
“For five months, Russia has been carrying out hostilities, coyly calling them a special operation. We're being promised a victory and glory. Why, then, are a large part of my compatriots feeling shame and guilt?” Gorinov said. “I am convinced that a war is the fastest way to dehumanization, when the line between good and evil fades. It is always death, I don't accept it and reject it.”
[...]
lowenz on 8/7/2022 at 21:39
He's so right that in Putin's fascist Russia is must be silenced.....
