lowenz on 4/4/2022 at 10:44
Quote Posted by Tocky
We finally have a democracy to defend, one where the people WANT it, and are too war weary and just plain chickenshit to do so.
The nukes are real, man.
Nicker on 4/4/2022 at 12:05
The nukes are always on the table. That's no reason to abandon Ukraine. The west should never have left their embassies there. Appeasing Putin won't make him less arrogant and bloody, only more so. I don't think that the lesser oligarchs would let him use them. No good being an obscenely rich crook is there's nowhere to sail your mega yacht.
lowenz on 4/4/2022 at 14:11
Quote Posted by Nicker
The nukes are always on the table. That's no reason to abandon Ukraine. The west should never have left their embassies there. Appeasing Putin won't make him less arrogant and bloody, only more so. I don't think that the lesser oligarchs would let him use them. No good being an obscenely rich crook is there's nowhere to sail your mega yacht.
Problem is "oligarchs" are not -archs, but "low level agents just for the show"
[video=youtube;fypBI2ovxP8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fypBI2ovxP8&ab_channel=CNN&fbclid=IwAR1BsIWDkCf-G6XoPIs9OwWcrRxwfaVjzaQcW1gOhw1Ol6RHQ00trPxZ3wo[/video]
lowenz on 4/4/2022 at 22:07
Damn, on reddit I can see classic Trump/Redpills/Right wing supporters with "tovarish" nicknames (ahahah) speaking the same old story "you guys believe all that crap your western media propaganda feed you with!!111" and calling Mariupol.....MARIUPLE. No russian would *ever* spell "Mariupol" like that.
Su much clever they are......LOL
Starker on 5/4/2022 at 17:00
Quote Posted by Jashin
There's just too much fake news right now, only reliable source seems to be satellite photos. Russia is not there to knock out tanks, planes, or civilians...
Hello again, Jashin. Here are some more satellite photos of your soldiers "knocking out civilians":
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/world/europe/bucha-ukraine-bodies.html)
An analysis of satellite images by The New York Times rebuts claims by Russia that the killing of civilians in Bucha, a suburb of Kyiv, occurred after its soldiers had left the town.
When images emerged over the weekend of the bodies of dead civilians lying on the streets of Bucha — some with their hands bound, some with gunshot wounds to the head — Russia’s Ministry of Defense denied responsibility. In a Telegram post on Sunday, the ministry suggested that the bodies had been recently placed on the streets after “all Russian units withdrew completely from Bucha” around March 30.
Russia claimed that the images were “another hoax” and called for an emergency U.N. Security Council meeting on what it called “provocations of Ukrainian radicals” in Bucha.
But a review of videos and satellite imagery by The Times shows that many of the civilians were killed more than three weeks ago, when Russia’s military was in control of the town.
One video filmed by a local council member on April 1 shows multiple bodies scattered along Yablonska Street in Bucha. Satellite images provided to The Times by Maxar Technologies show that at least 11 of those had been on the street since March 11, when Russia, by its own account, occupied the town.
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Cipheron on 7/4/2022 at 02:04
Kazakhstan not toeing the Moscow line, must be punished.
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https://jamestown.org/program/moscow-outraged-that-kazakhstan-becoming-a-second-ukraine/)
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Moscow Outraged That Kazakhstan Becoming ‘a Second Ukraine'
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Moscow-based commentators who remain convinced that Russia saved the current government in Kazakhstan by intervening there in January (see EDM, January 19, 21) are outraged that the Central Asian country is not supporting Russia in the Ukrainian conflict but rather publicly taking positions that challenge all of the Kremlin's claims.
Some, like Regnum journalist Bogdan Bezpalko, are beginning to use increasingly bellicose language, such as calling the Kazakhs “little Nazis” and arguing that “Kazakhstan is on its way to becoming a second Ukraine.” Unless this large steppe republic that Russia has long counted on as its closest partner in Central Asia changes course, such writers argue, Kazakhstan will suffer mightily for its failure to support Moscow now (Regnum, April 1)
Russian writers have a long list of complaints about how Kazakhstan is responding to the Ukrainian crisis. They are upset that Kazakhstan has permitted pro-Ukrainian demonstrations while banning pro-Russian ones, angry that the Kazakhstani authorities have allowed their citizens to organize humanitarian assistance to Ukraine but not to (Russian-occupied) Donbas, and furious that instead of eliminating “Russophobes” from the government after January, the national authorities have allegedly brought more of them onboard and even allowed groups that Moscow views as anti-Russian to form new political parties (Regnum, April 1).
Man, the Kazakhs unexpectedly have more balls standing up to Putin than half the hosts on FOX News.
demagogue on 7/4/2022 at 03:32
Interesting. I just got to a chapter in a book I was reading this week about resistance by Sufi Qassaqs against Soviet apparachiks in the 1950s (and cooperation, at least until Kruschev's crackdown; history is always complicated) -- and I also watched the movie Dear Comrades which covers around the same period in a similar area, where some characters had some opinions about Cossack resistance ... the fact the spelling of who they even are is a hint about how differently they've been perceived in different contexts -- and I realized how little I really understood about some parts of the world, and how much there was to still learn.
So it's interesting to see this blurb in the context of that history. I mean records were kept from the public for a long time, so it's understandable feeling in the dark. It reinforces my old mantra. Never form an opinion about anything unless you've read at least a good 2000 words on the topic from reputable sources, and even then be hesitant to claim too much.
Nicker on 9/4/2022 at 17:05
That's too much work, Dema. I prefer, "If you are not sure, SHOUT LOUDER"!!
Starker on 11/4/2022 at 12:24
Well, I guess he learned what "establishing order using the methods of Putin" looks like first-hand.
