Cipheron on 5/3/2022 at 19:02
Uggh, there was a private zoom chat between Zelenskyy and a number of US senators. They were asked to keep it confidential
Two of the senators however decided to leak it on social media for clout. You'll never guess which party they were from!
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https://i.redd.it/sy3ixqc3zll81.jpg)
lowenz on 5/3/2022 at 20:12
A "NATO strategic asset" that can afford.....a Zoom chat.
What an asset.....oh wait, it's because he is not.
And no NAZI dieselpunk retrofuturistic tech.....they don't make them like before, ja.....
bjack on 5/3/2022 at 20:12
Lowenz, you said" A majestic perversion of Hegel.....if you know Hegel.
Russian (orthodox) people think West=Satan and they want to "save" Ukraine from Satan's embrace. "
I read a lot of Hegel in school many decades ago. I did not like the dude at all. Some agreement, but the overall vibe was terror. That's just my opinion.
Spot on, on the second sentence I quoted. Many religious people in Russia and elsewhere see the West as being Satanic. Unfortunately, some in the USA feel a partnership with those that agree with these religious views (be they Russian, etc); however, they do not realize the differing cultures are at odds. The Russians are not really their friends. Neither are the millions of those following Islam that find the USA culture abhorrent.
This is a very "interesting" time. I hope to survive it. I hope the rest of you do too.
May we not get toasted in nuclear fury.
lowenz on 5/3/2022 at 22:12
Hegel "per se" is not dangerous. But like Plato he can be weaponized in a really easy way. You know, "ethical state". Fascist Italy was primary (in Gentile's theory) an attempt to build an ethical state of zelous "militant" citizens: templars, paladins, crusaders (if I can use the classic RPG subclasses :p) moving from a catholic model of society and the Rome legacy: Romantic (you know where "romantic" word comes from and why) spiritualism and idealism.
Putin's nationalistic elite and интеллигенция are not SO high on goals. Just protect Матушка Россия from the "Empire of Lies" (Putin's words), Satan's dominion.
Putin sees itself as a tool of salvation of russian civilisation (in his ideology, please don't let me start on Marx :D ), it's why he accuses Lenin about the very existence of Ukraine as a state, a country and not only a geographic region.
"People of Ukraine, if you reject communism and its errors COME WITH US - willing or not"
It's only this - hyper-protective until being abusive - thing from the ideological perspective.
lowenz on 5/3/2022 at 23:10
To sell "lethal weapons" (not a gun, but "superior" weapons like a jet) is a war declaration, Putin already has cleared that point. So nuclear strike in response.
lowenz on 5/3/2022 at 23:28
The ONE thing that really can explain why we're literally paralized is the "protective nature" of Putin OCCUPATION.
It's NOT an "invasion" cause it's real that Putin sees it as a form of "protection" of Ukraine people (Ukraine as a part of the russian civilisation that Russia as a state must love and protect no matter the cost for Ukraine "nowdays living" people too). That part is NOT propaganda, it's his real vision.
And it's precisely the point answering the question "He will use NUCLEAR WEAPONS?????" too: of course YES, because for him the preservation is an act of love toward ALL the russian civilisation - not a form of ventureous aggresion like nazi's lebensraum conquest or communist "global" titanism.
That's why THIS time, for the first time in hystory, the nuclear solution/outcome is POSSIBLE.
West="masculine" culture of aggression in the name of the "FATHERland": expansion to farm resources (NAZIS!!!!1111) no matter the number of fallen brothers
Russia="masculine" culture of obsessive control to achieve protection of the "MOTHERland": preservation at ALL costs no matter the number of fallen sons too.
That's the difference, summing up all. How to stop Putin? The same way you stop an abusive husband with a gas tank (pun intended) and a lighter.
bjack on 6/3/2022 at 01:21
Quote Posted by lowenz
Hegel "per se" is not dangerous.
I have deleted the rest that can be seen in the post above. My country does not respect either side. It is all about money. Power. Influence. However, it's gotten sloppy that we have degenerated to this point. Please, if you believe is Jesus, Krishna, or another savior... Pray and reflect. I wish you all well. I mean that from the depth of my soul. Even though some of you dislike me, I wish you no harm at all. May you and your family, loved ones, and associates of all sorts live in peace. That is my wish. That is what I want. I sense I will not get it. Jesus didn't either. As we say in the USA , "It's a tough row to hoe!"
Cipheron on 6/3/2022 at 08:04
Yeah those were the same two i referenced in the Zoom chat. I just said "guess which party" instead of outright mentioning they were Republicans. Either they're that stupid or they're doing everything they can to throw the whole world under the bus if it'll bring Biden down.
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Brazilian Congressman and candidate for Mayor of São Paulo, @arthurmoledoval, went to Ukraine on a “humanitarian trip”.
Leaked audio shows the outspoken anti-Bolsonaro politician isn't concerned about refugees, trying to take advantage of desperate women
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https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1500150137041174536?s=21)
He went to Europe to fuck Ukrainian refugee women.
