taffernicus on 2/5/2025 at 05:33
At lunchtime, I put my thinking cap on and thought about suwalki corridor. At the same time I found this news:
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https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2550706/russia-publishes-book-on-lithuanian-history-preface-written-by-lavrov)
well lithuania is close to the suwalki gap.
why suddenly there is a book that discusses lithuania(by russie) is questionable
Will there be a 'goal and priority shift'?
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pakistan india tension, 'davidson window', middle east regional war, sudan conflict, congo conflict, etc.
It seems that the word 'world peace' itself is more costlier than sapphires , black opal or even diamond
will the next 3-5 years be unease?
let's keep our 'mk1 eyeball' sharp /s
demagogue on 2/5/2025 at 16:26
Stupid and transparent as usual. If Lithuanians don't really exist as a people, it's not occupation to annex it.
If anyone is interested in what's happening, I have to recommend Timothy Snyder's class on Ukrainian history that got uploaded to YouTube. It's not only a history class. The focus is the creation of separate countries and peoples, in particular Ukraine, but also every other people surrounding it, Polish, Lithuanians, Russians, Prussians, etc.
The part I remember is when he was talking about Ukraine's period under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for like 400 years. A big part of the story was the emergence of these three countries and peoples, Poland, Lithuania, and Ukraine, from--well they were already separate peoples by then; but how the populations emerged into peoples with their own separate nation-states from there and how that really solidified their identities as separate nations and peoples.
But one point he hit was that for all three of them, when you have multiple generations living under a legit republic with rule of law, functioning courts & parliament, etc., the value for those things gets saturated into the people, once they think of themselves as controlling their own destiny, that can't be easily erased, though 50~70 years under Soviet rule did its damnedest to try.
Then this story reminds me of how ridiculous the Soviets & now Putin & friends are completely oblivious to normal people having any political agency that they could be a "real" people. Even "Russia" itself is more a force of nature or providence to them than anything to do with real people. Real democracy is just so alien to them, and it's so natural to pretend it never really existed.
Well anyway, if you watch Snyder's lectures, it helps make sense of stories like this.
Of course it looks like part of their long term project to establish the pretext to invading them eventually, and Belarus, and Poland, and lord knows whom else. It's all so transparent and pathetic.
lowenz on 3/5/2025 at 16:58
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Even "Russia" itself is more a fArSe of nature
Fixed
Silentor on 29/5/2025 at 21:17
demagogue Studying history from a single source, rather than from academic textbooks, looks biased and pathetic. In fact, we see how all the bearers of ambition try to interpret this or that episode in their favor.
For 70 years, the Soviet government Ukrainized those tsarist and other regions that it included in Soviet Ukraine. Without a break for the Holodomor.
(yes, answer: Is the Holodomor a genocide of Ukrainians or a consequence of the exorbitant seizure of grain and meat even after the deterioration of the climate?).
The lands where the tragedy is taking place now used to be a Wild Field. There was no statehood there. These territories fell under the spheres of interest of many countries: Russia, Lithuania (there were even Lithuanian Cossacks), Poland, Austria-Hungary, Romania, the Ottoman Empire. A kind of "Big Game" in this region.
Even Zelensky says more "Russians" than "Russia" in his speeches about aggression.
Instead of uniting Ukrainians and Russians in Ukraine against the enemy, they took advantage of the moment to realize their nationalist dreams, which the USSR had long ago realized without their help.
What did Bandera and his dad do for Ukraine in the modern borders of '91, which Zelensky is pushing?
Putin and his friends are just Mabutu-Sese-Seko for the Western world. Convenient maintenance of your fictional paradigm about Russia.
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Of course it looks like part of their long term project to establish the pretext to invading them eventually, and Belarus, and Poland, and lord knows whom else.
:tsktsk: Yes, the NATO budget will not master itself.
Funny. Today, our gomo military man was blown up in Stavropol with the help of other gay. "European integrators" used a gay man blindly. Not to collect dirt. A "bomb" would be great. What else do need? Who cares who prefers which sex if it's all done without propaganda? But still, if we, in turn, promote conservatism, then, of course, this case is a disgrace.
But they blew up a passive gay man at the same time! And they didn't let him leave, as in the case of the "statuette". That is, the global community, in which a real sentence is threatened for scratching at an intersection of rainbow coloring, sponsors those who so freely dispose of the life of an untouchable caste. Ay ay ay!
Tocky on 30/5/2025 at 06:19
Do you take Peyote before posting?
heywood on 30/5/2025 at 14:19
Quote Posted by Silentor
demagogue Studying history from a single source, rather than from academic textbooks, looks biased and pathetic. In fact, we see how all the bearers of ambition try to interpret this or that episode in their favor.
For 70 years, the Soviet government Ukrainized those tsarist and other regions that it included in Soviet Ukraine. Without a break for the Holodomor.
(yes, answer: Is the Holodomor a genocide of Ukrainians or a consequence of the exorbitant seizure of grain and meat even after the deterioration of the climate?).
The lands where the tragedy is taking place now used to be a Wild Field. There was no statehood there. These territories fell under the spheres of interest of many countries: Russia, Lithuania (there were even Lithuanian Cossacks), Poland, Austria-Hungary, Romania, the Ottoman Empire. A kind of "Big Game" in this region.
Even Zelensky says more "Russians" than "Russia" in his speeches about aggression.
Instead of uniting Ukrainians and Russians in Ukraine against the enemy, they took advantage of the moment to realize their nationalist dreams, which the USSR had long ago realized without their help.
What did Bandera and his dad do for Ukraine in the modern borders of '91, which Zelensky is pushing?
Putin and his friends are just Mabutu-Sese-Seko for the Western world. Convenient maintenance of your fictional paradigm about Russia.
That was a long-winded way to say that you think Ukrainians have no right to statehood and belong subservient to Russia. You are illustrating demagogue's point. Current Russian beliefs remind me of "manifest destiny" in early 19th century America. You seem to believe you have an innate right to claim territory and establish hegemony over other people based on a delusion of grandeur.
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Funny. Today, our gomo military man was blown up in Stavropol with the help of other gay. "European integrators" used a gay man blindly. Not to collect dirt. A "bomb" would be great. What else do need? Who cares who prefers which sex if it's all done without propaganda? But still, if we, in turn, promote conservatism, then, of course, this case is a disgrace.
But they blew up a passive gay man at the same time! And they didn't let him leave, as in the case of the "statuette". That is, the global community, in which a real sentence is threatened for scratching at an intersection of rainbow coloring, sponsors those who so freely dispose of the life of an untouchable caste. Ay ay ay!
To you, the significant part of the story is that a gay man was killed. To the rest of us, the significant part of the story is that a Russian military commander was killed, whether he was gay or not does not matter. I hope someday you will recognize that sexual orientation is nothing more than sexual orientation, neither a virtue or defect.
Silentor on 30/5/2025 at 18:22
heywoodI'm not justifying what happened. I say that it is ridiculous to hear when it is claimed that the USSR destroyed Ukrainianism, whereas the Bolsheviks did nothing but add various lands to Ukraine. Moldova, for example, was deprived of access to the sea (and their "elite" are now proteges of the imperial Romanian ambitions). De facto, we can say, it is the Ukrainian Federation, and not what you imagine (something unified).
And so paradigm shift, based partly on fictional historiography, led to a confrontation. Goading by external forces.
Not many people supported the Maidan. Mostly in the capital. But psychiatric activists will always speak for everyone. From either side.
Then, add here to the fictional religious values of the "Third Rome" and the "innate right to claim" from hypocritical "European values", "American values" since the end of the 20th century.
You didn't understand, the Ukrainian special services used a gay man to blow up the enemy. It's very European.
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A source "ВЧК-ОГПУ" told about details of the bombing of Zaur Gurtsiev, a veteran of the "СВО" (Special Military Operation) who became the first deputy mayor of Stavropol. It has been established that Zaur Gurtsiev met Nikita Penkov on one of the gay dating resources.
During the investigation, explicit correspondence was discovered where they sent naked photos to each other, etc. The Deputy head of the city had already invited his new acquaintance to spend time together, but each time the meeting had to be canceled due to Gurtsiev's business trips. Until last night.
Zaur Gurtsiev and Nikita Penkov agreed on the meeting place in advance. As soon as they got close, an explosion occurred. According to preliminary data, the explosives was in Nikita Penkov's body bag. Inside the bomb were striking elements — balls for pneumatic weapons.
According to preliminary data, Penkov was hired by unknown persons to collect compromising material on Gurtsiev and provided with "special equipment" that transmits video. An bomb was mounted in the special equipment.
[video]https://www.yapfiles.ru/show/3366241/fa02169ff20144d0f816688338367300.mp4.html[/video]
Nicker on 31/5/2025 at 02:31
So Russian values were Stalin heroically trying to concentrate and fortify "Ukrainianism" by reducing their population to the most essential few possible.
That tracks, Silentor. Have another button.
lowenz on 31/5/2025 at 07:54
Quote Posted by Silentor
the USSR destroyed Ukrainianism, whereas the Bolsheviks did nothing but add various lands to Ukraine.
It was a necessary step to destroy russian imperialism, not to favour ukrainian one.
It was done in the
*inter*national communism frame.
And of course - to me - it was well done as a balance function. Like capitalism, nationalism sometimes can be useful but NOT in its imperial and (cripto)suprematist form: that's pure madness&delirium.
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Not many people supported the Maidan. Mostly in the capital.
That's obvious, like in every revolution: see the french one. So it's best and more "authentic" to reinstall monarchy (maybe with divine ordering ambitions,
those damn gays against nature!!!1111 - society in itself is against nature) in France?
Silentor on 31/5/2025 at 11:05
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So Russian values were Stalin heroically trying to concentrate and fortify "Ukrainianism" by reducing their population to the most essential few possible.
The cult of Stalin is being forsed in our country (along with Christianization and Muslimization).
I myself have a very negative attitude towards him. It was possible to raise the country without his methods.
All nations suffered from the regime of this Georgian (Gruzin/Sacartvelo). And most of all, we Russians.
Your propaganda (or "the tail is wagging the dog") distorted the facts of the real tragedy that occurred in the early 30s in southeastern Ukraine, southern Russia, and northern Kazakhstan.
Quote Posted by lowenz
It was a necessary step to destroy russian imperialism, not to favour ukrainian one.
It was done in the
*inter*national communism frame.
And of course - to me - it was well done as a balance function. Like capitalism, nationalism sometimes can be useful but NOT in its imperial and (cripto)suprematist form: that's pure madness&delirium.
That's obvious, like in every revolution: see the french one. So it's best and more "authentic" to reinstall monarchy (maybe with divine ordering ambitions,
those damn gays against nature!!!1111 - society in itself is against nature) in France?
Balanced development according to such historicity?
If Ukrainian nationalism is normal, Russian nationalism is bad (German?)), then it means that you are also participants in the conflict, who understand everything on this chessboard.
