Starker on 7/10/2024 at 18:03
Quote Posted by Cipheron
Japan had two actual atom bombs dropped on them and they didn't even mass-migrate out of the cities that got bombed, for any length of time.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima)
We drop atom bombs on entire cities and people still want to go back. People aren't going to evacuate an entire continent because a nuclear plant 3 countries over to the East had an accident.
This is a bit different. The bombs were detonated in the air, in order to cause maximum destruction, so a lot of the radioactive particles were dispersed into the atmosphere and carried of to the ocean by the wind instead of say, embedding itself into the ground. Also, an atomic bomb of that type consumes most of its material, so there wasn't quite as much nuclear material to go around, not to mention that there was vastly less material in the bomb in the first place and a lot of it decayed pretty rapidly.
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https://www.straightdope.com/21343597/if-nuclear-fallout-lasts-thousands-of-years-how-did-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-recover-so-quickly)
A nuclear disaster in a plant could potentially be much more serious as far as the fallout is concerned, since there is a lot more material to go around, though of course not to the apocalyptic extent some fevered minds imagine.
Starker on 7/10/2024 at 18:16
Quote Posted by heywood
How well did we treat the Irish who came here in droves because of the famine? Not well. Likewise when Italians came. And Eastern European Jews fleeing communism. It's more than racism, it's nativism.
I mean, none of these groups were seen as exactly white at the time.
To clarify, I mean white in the Anglo-Saxon supremacy sense, not in the sense of the racial politics of black and white skin.
baeuchlein on 7/10/2024 at 20:03
Quote Posted by DuatDweller
Depends on the severity of the accident, Pripyat was evacuated, Fukushima was evacuated, what if the accident is more spread more severe, but a man can dream, dammit.
A man can dream, but a
wise man does not blindly believe in his dreams, or babble about them before thinking it over.
The (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Plant) Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Plant is the largest in Europe, with six nuclear reactors installed. But still, the amount of radioactive waste which a nuclear disaster can spread is limited. Remember that Chernobyl had one reactor which exploded, and no one in Western Europe was evacuated. Also remember that in (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_nuclear_accident) Fukushima, three of its five reactors suffered some kind of explosion and spilled their guts around the plant, and the wind spread it even further. But unless I'm not well informed, Japan has not been evacuated yet. Only 164000 residents have moved away from the area surrounding the plant.
Some people (and I mean people who have
knowledge, not just weird dreams) have discussed what could happen if the Zaporizhzhia plant would be severely damaged or destroyed because of the occurring war, and while they usually hinted at that this could be more severe than the Chernobyl disaster, no one mentioned evacuations outside of Ukraine and the Russian Federation. Furthermore, because winds in Europe quite often are going eastwards, Russia's interest in creating or risking a nuclear incident there is assumed to be very low - the chance that they would have to explain their own population why some of them have been contaminated heavily is rather high.
Get real, DuatDweller. What you do here very often is spread something not very far from Fake News. Don't become like the ones doing propaganda for Russia - the US already have a former president who is suited well to do that job perfectly.
taffernicus on 13/10/2024 at 06:29
I am going off the rail a bit from the main theme. I hope a lot of news and analysis also comes from Transnistria and what is happening there... I mean, There seems to be something interesting about Moldavia and Transnistria in general. Gagauzia in moldova is also an interesting topic, not to mention Cobasna ammunition depot in Transnistria.
taffernicus on 13/10/2024 at 06:37
Maybe Russia will have a new exlave? I really don't know
Starker on 22/10/2024 at 00:48
Indeed, at the rate Russia is losing men, this could prolong the war as much as 10 days. Except of course that none of these troops have ever seen a drone in their life. Or, y'know, a full meal.
taffernicus on 22/10/2024 at 11:26
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https://kyivindependent.com/seoul-considering-sending-military-personnel-to-ukraine-to/) https://kyivindependent.com/seoul-considering-sending-military-personnel-to-ukraine-to/
if it's true, let's see how that unfolds
Also this war would be different if South Korea decided to give their hyunmoo missiles to Ukraine. But i don't think it's gonna happen.
I've been a fan of S.Korea military development , particularly their 4.5th gen KF-21 fighter jet program and their latest hyunmoo 5.
Slightly unrealted : South korea's f15k slam eagle they are one of my favorite f15, besides f15ex. Their performance was quite impressive during Exercise Pitch Black in Australia
Some of the North Korean soldiers have even become deserters and even escaped.
taffernicus on 22/10/2024 at 11:39
sad fact : There is something “blocking” the transfer of technology process of their KF-21 program with my country. Perhaps blocking or hindering is misnomer. 'Not Authorizing' or 'not granting' might be well suited. We have been working together for a long time. The final choice falls to the Dassault Rafale or F-15ex procurement if that condition is not met.
