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henke on 4/4/2013 at 16:28

HOW am I supposed to make ANY SENSE of that preview unless Vae swings by and TRANSLATES every single line into the most cynical and pessimistic interpretations possible? :p

Tomi on 4/4/2013 at 16:30

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But (seriously minor detail, I know) does Garrett wear the mask & eyeshadow through the whole game; even while at home? The eyeshadow/mask bother me; Garrett's a Thief, not a Ninja.

Doesn't Garrett remove the mask even in the trailer? I'm fairly sure (just guessing here though!) that it won't be the only time you're going to see Garrett's face.

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pulling off the occasional slow-motion murder'. Hope that's optional. As much as I dearly loved DX:HR, the take-down cutscenes got old after awhile.

Agreed, and I also hope that they're optional. If they're not, I hope that there's at least enough variety in the takedown moves and those don't happen all the time.

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'The rooftop pursuit is a race against time.' Hope that's optional as well. Hate timed levels/missions.

I'm not a fan of timed levels either, but in this case it could work, because it seems that you don't get an immediate "MISSION FAILED!!!" message on your screen when you run out of time, some doors simply close (both figuratively and literally, according to the article!) for you, and you'll have to find another entrance for example. (The guy who wrote the RPS article explained it way better than I did...) I hope that there are some logical explanations for those events though, not just Timer: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 >>> door gets magically locked.

nickie on 4/4/2013 at 16:38

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Questions (trying ever so hard to be objective here, mind you):

And you're doing a good job!

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'uncomfortable proportion of Dishonored parallels. Despite his increased agility and eyeshadow'. Don't like the 'Dishonored parallels', but the graphics are definitely eye-candy. But (seriously minor detail, I know) does Garrett wear the mask & eyeshadow through the whole game; even while at home? The eyeshadow/mask bother me; Garrett's a Thief, not a Ninja.

Well if he's living in a crow's nest (did I read that somewhere) he'll need his mask on - psittacosis could be a problem. I don't think it's unreasonable to be a little bothered by minor details, I can understand that. After all, I get taken out of deep involvement in a fan mission by things like floating objects or typos in texts. These things matter to me, other people may not even notice.

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'The rooftop pursuit is a race against time.' Hope that's optional as well. Hate timed levels/missions.

So do I and I don't think it is optional but I admit to skim reading and I may be wrong. I also got the impression that you don't fail particularly but may have to find another way? I need to read the article again.

thiefinthedark on 4/4/2013 at 16:44

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Swearing in dialogue is natural, and can be very effective for invective, drama, pathos etc. It's very evocative language by it's very nature, if you handle it right. Problem is, not handling it right makes it look juvenile as hell.

Well, yes, that's exactly the thing. There was always swearing in Thief games, and quite a lot of it. The thing is, the swearing was in-universe lexicon. They didn't say "By God" they said "By The Builder". They didn't say "You f***er!" they said "You Taffer!".

The games had a surprisingly rich sound design in this regard, and it was one of the things that really helped to make them stand out in terms of immersion. Seeing they've thrown that away for generic edginess is hardly a surprise though, this is clearly a paint-by-numbers AAA release.

jay pettitt on 4/4/2013 at 16:49

There's another hands-on report at (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-04-thief-preview-deadly-shadows-that-move) Eurogamer: Deadly Shadows that Move. Apparently the new tech is exciting. The Shadows are cast dynamically this time. Unlike Deadly Shado.... never mind.

cyrosis on 4/4/2013 at 16:56

Articles are all over the place now, and I happened to find this nugget...

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To this end, Garrett has been equipped with some impressive abilities, including being able to peek around corners or objects without being spotted, and slow down hand-to-hand combat in order to pick specific parts of your enemy's body to target.

Part of focus, or just universal dumbing down?

(http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/previews/10272-Thief-Preview-Will-it-Steal-Our-Hearts)

Another piece of info...

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Thief is played from a first-person perspective, although the game will shift to third-person when Garrett scales walls or goes into combat.

That one is new to me. Clearly they don't want you staring at walls when climbing, but third person for combat now too?

(http://www.shacknews.com/article/78564/thief-preview-out-of-the-shadows)

jay pettitt on 4/4/2013 at 17:07

Yeah - the RPS article confirms (by crafty way of alt image text) 3rd person take down animations.

van HellSing on 4/4/2013 at 17:11

I hate... no, actually I love to say "I told you so", so:

I told you so.

cyrosis on 4/4/2013 at 17:14

I just have to stop reading these previews, the scowl on my face and the pit in my stomach is becoming rather uncomfortable.

henke on 4/4/2013 at 17:14

Ok, read the preview. I'm starting to feel about this the same way I felt about DXHR in the months leading up to it's release. I'm expecting a good game, though not necessarily one that'll be true to the original. Then again Human Revolution did end up surprising me by genuinely feeling like a Deus Ex game, so who know.

A few of things I really liked in the preview was reading that they've taken more cues from TMA than TDP when it comes to level/mission design, and the talk of increased mobility and the way Garrett's hands interacts with the world sound swell too!