jkcerda on 10/10/2017 at 15:36
no such thing as a "smart" gun.
Renzatic on 10/10/2017 at 17:41
Not yet, though I'm counting down the days until we have them. I can very easily see plenty of wisdom in having a gun that's paired exclusively to its owner.
jkcerda on 10/10/2017 at 18:24
a gun is NOT the one thing you want it to fail when you need it the most. tell you what, when ALL cops comply then MAYBE we will think about it.
nickie on 10/10/2017 at 20:01
Thanks guys. Despite daily confirmation, I tend to forget that your country is bonkers. I forgot, until catbarf posted, that your police are not like normal police. Over here, unless you are a member of a fairly small minority who have bad history with the police (for which the police are probably culpable), you don't tend to think of them as the enemy - except traffic, who are always the enemy. Unless demonstrating or doing anything else perceived to be anti-establishment, our police are there to help and protect. And my experience with them on being threatened with being shot is that they were absolutely great.
Discounting the big gun = small dick theory, I get the impression that there is a sizable number of people for whom having a gun/s is a fundamental part of their psyche. As if their guns are what makes them. And any suggestion that their guns are regulated in any way is tantamount to an attempt to destroy the self. It feels that deep.
Although I have other thoughts on the matter, I have to sleep.
jkcerda on 10/10/2017 at 20:03
it's not a theory, bought 3 cases of extenze and when that did not work I turned to guns..........
heywood on 10/10/2017 at 22:12
Quote Posted by jkcerda
a gun is NOT the one thing you want it to fail when you need it the most. tell you what, when ALL cops comply then MAYBE we will think about it.
I am aware of the concerns people have raised about a "smart" gun failing when you need it to defend your home. However, that problem is hypothetical, and it's solvable through technology.
A very real problem is that unsafeguarded guns are often deliberately or accidentally used by people who shouldn't have them, like your kids or their friends. That problem kills way more people than the number of justifiable homicides made in self defense.
So solve the bigger problem first. If you want to keep a loaded gun in your dresser drawer for quick access if somebody breaks into your home, it should have a trigger lock or be a "smart" gun. Otherwise, it should be locked up in a proper container.
jkcerda on 10/10/2017 at 22:14
we have plenty of laws concerning negligent discharge, what you propose there is no way to check at all. cops would have to come in unannounced to check to see if the guns are properly secured. nothing more than a pipe dream.
Renzatic on 10/10/2017 at 22:18
Not necessarily. Regulating trigger locks as a necessity would cut down on accidental discharges at home, and would make shootings like Sandy Hook, where someone takes a gun that isn't theirs to go on a killing spree, considerably more difficult to pull off.
It wouldn't be something the cops would have to check regularly, though it would put a heavier onus of responsibility on the gun owners.
jkcerda on 10/10/2017 at 22:25
if I know the cops are coming, then I can just put said lock in........................... hence the reason I said this is just a feel good regulation that is unenforceable.
Renzatic on 10/10/2017 at 22:28
Not necessarily, because if someone ends up getting shot with your gun, the first question the cops are going to ask is why the hell you didn't have your trigger lock engaged, and explain how you could be held partially accountable for failing to do so.
This alone would do quite a bit to make gun owners extra careful about making sure they've got their locks on.
