absis minas on 10/5/2005 at 04:44
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- The endings all seemed like variations on hell rather than competing altruistic visions of what's best for the future of the human race. You can either choose to join any one of three meglomaniac despots to rule the world in tyranny or you trigger the extermination of the human race in a 200 year holocaust. Honestly, I can't remember ever playing a game whose overall tone was so depressing and cynical, so by the end I really just didn't care anymore. It didn't help that Liberty Island was one of the most poorly designed levels in recent memory. I haven't experienced such an unsatisfying ending since Half-Life.
that was a brilliant way to put it. i actually love both Deus Ex games for their...lack of hope.
TheGreatGodPan on 10/5/2005 at 20:14
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Imagine a game that starts similar to 1984 or somesuch, you're a lowly proletariat slowly unravelling the truth behind society, until the conspiracy suddenly hits you in the face and you are thrust into it.
Did you read 1984? The proles never discover anything.
Alushe on 13/5/2005 at 21:15
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Did you read 1984? The proles never discover anything.
Did you read what I wrote?
" Imagine a game that
starts similar to 1984 or somesuch"
TheGreatGodPan on 13/5/2005 at 23:56
Quote Posted by Alushe
Did you read what I wrote?
" Imagine a game that
starts similar to 1984 or somesuch"
Name a prole character in 1984. They may be "the only hope", but they aren't major characters. The party members are the only ones is position to have any contact with any kind of conspiracy. The proles just work in factories, drink and play the lotto. It does not start out with any proles, it begins focusing on Winston, a party member, who is completely aware that he is involved in mass deception from the beginning.
Nocturne_98 on 15/5/2005 at 17:53
* It is possible to kill Billie Adams at the very beginning of the game, in her
apartment, before you have any weapons. Carefully nudge her across the room,
into the bathroom and turn on the shower when she's standing beneath it. Do
this several times and her health will be depleted enough that she dies. If
you don't kill her at this time, she will be behind the barrier in the same
room Nassif was in and you won't be able to harm her. Killing Billie has
several interesting repercussions; the designers probably didn't intend for
you to be able to do this:
- You will still receive a few "phantom" infolink message from her early in
the game, as you are escaping from Tarsus, and later in the Emerald Suites
apartments.
- The game will crash much later when you enter the Order Mosque in Cairo and
walk up to Luminon Saman - he begins the conversation he normally has with
Billie, she then materializes out of nowhere floating above his head, and
then the game crashes.
[not sure if this happens in the X-Box version of the game - ed]
- Still later, in JC Denton's Sanctuary, Billie does not appear when she
normally does and you don't have to deal with her in the Area 51 replica
room - so the designers DID anticipate her being dead by this point,
strangely. Also, the Grays wandering around JC's Sanctuary will
acknowledge that you have killed her before you get to the Area 51 room.
- Finally, Billie does not appear in the UNATCO ruins on Liberty Island, as
she would have if she'd survived the Area 51 encounter.
