Ostriig on 12/9/2009 at 20:37
None specified, hit me. It's why I'm looking at stuff like that Bravia above, with the obscene 1600 price point - I'd like to provide my dad with a variety of options regardless of price, and then he can decide what's worth what. I do know that it's a unit he intends to keep for a long time (hell, our old CRT had had a decade-long run) so I'm assuming he's willing to consider more costly stuff too.
bikerdude on 12/9/2009 at 21:34
Quote Posted by Ostriig
I'd like to provide my dad with a variety of options regardless of price,
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http://www.1staudiovisual.co.uk/catalog/images/samsungle40a686ared_s_250.jpg)
Ok atm here are two option I thoroughly recommend at each price point.
£750 - 40" Samsung LE40A686
Inline Image:
http://ii.alatest.se/product/600x400/4/3/Samsung-LE-40A686-40-Widescreen-1080P-Full-HD-LCD-TV-With-Freeview-0.jpg - hard to get but worth it, 1080p, 24p, 100Hz, good following:- black levels, viewing angels, motion processing, upscalling, backlight bleed, sharpness, and it has a nice looking simple square bezel
£1500 - 42" Philips 42PFL9664
Inline Image:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/11558-42pfl9664img1.jpg -LED matirx backlit(hence the price) 1080p, 24p, 200Hz, good following:- black levels, viewing angels, motion processing, up-scalling, sharpness, ambi light and it has a nice looking bezel.
a friend was all set to buy the Samsung, but got a bonus from work so just bought the Phillips instead. The extra £750 is because its got LED matrix back-lighting, the best there is for LCD atm and WiFi and Ethernet and USB - you can browse the net directly from the TV...!!!
review - (
http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2009/08/05/Philips-42PFL9664-42in-LCD-TV/p1)
Ostriig on 12/9/2009 at 23:16
Sweet, thanks! Quick question, did you have a chance to look at these two screens yourself? I'm asking 'cause I know you're thorough about picture quality.
But one thing, I noticed that the 200Hz only appears in a "Clear LCD" context, but isn't featured in the supported displays:
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Will this screen output 200Hz real-time if needed, or is it just a slow-motion gimmick or something?
Looks like I found a 47'' version, too, the (
http://www.consumer.philips.com/c/televizoare/seria-9000-tv-digital-full-hd-de-47-inch-1080p-47pfl9664h_12/prd/ro/) 47PFL9664H, looks like the same thing but bigger. The Samsung doesn't show up on their UK site, though, I guess that's what you meant by hard to get.
bikerdude on 12/9/2009 at 23:34
Quote Posted by Ostriig
* Sweet, thanks! Quick question, did you have a chance to look at these two screens yourself? I'm asking 'cause I know you're thorough about picture quality.
* But one thing, I noticed that the 200Hz only appears in a "Clear LCD" context, but isn't featured in the supported displays: Will this screen output 200Hz real-time if needed, or is it just a slow-motion gimmick or something?
* Ive seen the Samsung in the flesh and will beseeing the phillips next sat.
* Its essentially how well the tv deald with moving images, in computer monitor speak it would the same as lowering the response time.
Ostriig on 12/9/2009 at 23:44
Quote Posted by Bikerdude
* Ive seen the Samsung in the flesh and will beseeing the phillips next sat.
Oh, awesome, do share impressions when you have them! :D
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* Its essentially how well the tv deald with moving images, in computer monitor speak it would the same as lowering the response time.
I see. But there's essentially no way to know if it would support stereoscopic display. From what I gathered regarding nVidia's 120 Hz req, it basically goes about it by alternating two offset viewpoints within 1 second, each with a 60Hz rate. So that led me to believe that a stereoscopic-capable TV would need to feature something like
1920x1080, 200Hz as an option.
Ulukai on 15/9/2009 at 16:26
Unless you're an AV junky, I wouldn't pay over over the odds for 200Hz when 100Hz looks so awesome.
Matthew on 15/9/2009 at 17:55
Ostriig - if you do think about the Sony, check if you have a Sony Centre near you - the one near me currently has a sale on at the moment (the 40" version of the Z4500 was reduced from £1500 to £1000, for example) and are also doing £100 trade-in on your old TV, working or not.
bikerdude on 15/9/2009 at 18:27
Quote Posted by Ulukai
Unless you're an AV junky, I wouldn't pay over over the odds for 200Hz when 100Hz looks so awesome.
that phillips is so pricey because it have a Matrix LED back light.. not because its 200hz
Ulukai on 15/9/2009 at 18:31
I wasn't referring to that. I'm just sayin'.
bikerdude on 15/9/2009 at 19:06
Quote Posted by Ulukai
I wasn't referring to that. I'm just sayin'.
I hear yeah, the biggest problem with the TV market even for someone like me, is there is so many models its quite tiresome trying to seperate the fact from the bullshit that the manufacturers, dealers, shops, websites churn out..:erg:
