demagogue on 14/10/2007 at 03:50
Quote Posted by Aja
Most Radiohead albums have been growers for me, and I know that I'll come to appreciate In Rainbows even more over time.
Quote Posted by Jackablade
Like every Radiohead album I'll have to hear it 10 times or more before I really love it, but I know I eventually will because it sounds pretty much like their other stuff.
I've heard this so many times before. I remember going on a Radiohead odyssey a few years ago, because so many friends were recommending them and on paper they have all the ingredients of music I would really love ... mavericks, incisive lyrics, minimalist powerful chords...
So I really tried to absorb the songs, just as I had done for other artists whose songs really became a part of my fabric as the songs sank in and became personal, esp ones with lyrics that rewarded careful listening with some depth ... Beatles, Dylan, Paul Simon, Hendrix, Sting, XTC, Talking Heads, Smashing Pumpkins, Belle & Sebastian, Peter Gabriel, Foo Fighters (at least their "thoughtful" songs).
I always felt like Radiohead songs should have been absorbed like the others, like it was part of that kind of crowd, but for some reason I find it hard to get as personal a connection with them. I started with
Pablo Honey. I don't know if it's because I'm not listening to them carefully enough, or just not enough, or if I'm not listening to the right songs. I mean, I definitely
like them, the lyrics are good on paper, but they aren't connecting at that personal level that other people talk about. They remind me of the Verve with more edge ... British, the style of vamping, some emo ... almost emotional ambient pieces. Maybe they just haven't grown on me and I need to give them another listen or twenty.
trevor the sheep on 14/10/2007 at 13:10
ok right speaking of the (
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=56124) NEW BURIAL LP i (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1651825#post1651825) mentioned earlier if you want to hear the absolute fucking cutting edge of UK underground music, like smeared melancholic uk garage/r&b/2-step/dub/d&b then feast your ears on the clips on that main page. 'archangel' sounds HEAVY (burial is actually contributing to a forthcoming thom yorke remix album so WAHEY radiohead connection there).
Toxicfluff on 14/10/2007 at 20:18
Quote Posted by trevor the sheep
ok right speaking of the (
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=56124) NEW BURIAL LP i (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1651825#post1651825) mentioned earlier if you want to hear the absolute fucking cutting edge of UK underground music, like smeared melancholic uk garage/r&b/2-step/dub/d&b then feast your ears on the clips on that main page. 'archangel' sounds HEAVY (burial is actually contributing to a forthcoming thom yorke remix album so WAHEY radiohead connection there).
I really like the Burial album, but I don't think it's the world-turning masterpiece sitting on the razor's edge that everyone makes it out to be. It is cutting edge in that it was released just last year and is the first big crossover from an underground scene far from the middle-class Brit music press that've jumped all over it with a voracity that'd outdo starving bees around a honey vat. But the reason it's crossed over so successfully is that said press have been waiting for an accessible entry into this scene for some time, and Burial has enough smoothed edges and elements familiar from electronica acts and the trip-hop lot to provide it.
As for In Rainbows, I haven't listened to it enough yet to give a properly measured opinion. So far I can say that Nude, Reckoner, Videotape and All I Need are the standout tracks for me, and that Wierd Fishes.. has some of the worst sounding skins I've heard all year.
Aerothorn on 14/10/2007 at 20:23
I only just realized that this was free. I suppose I might as well get it and see if I like them.
Stitch on 14/10/2007 at 23:45
Quote Posted by Stitch
I don't really get the
Amnesiac comparisons.
Amnesiac had melodies and songwriting.
When I wrote these words I had barely made it through the album once and I was hoping I'd come to eat my words. While I still find
In Rainbows to be Radiohead at their most flat, the album has grown on me and I find it incredibly addictive. The first two tracks haven't quite caught on yet, although I love the way they
sound, but from Nude on out the album is ace.
Aerothorn edit: the album is only free if you consider the music monetarily worthless.
Scots Taffer on 15/10/2007 at 11:31
Would In Rainbows be the ideal place for a Radiohead novice to begin their listening? I've heard individual tracks before and are quite fond of Street Spirit and Paranoid Android, but never really stopped and gave any of their albums any time.
Even as a non-fan, I'd still throw them at least a fiver for the download. I admire their moxie in this endeavour.
demagogue on 15/10/2007 at 11:35
Yeah, I should summarize my last post on that same point. What's the best album to start with if you're wanting to get into this band on a deeper level than just knowing a few singles?
Toxicfluff on 15/10/2007 at 11:51
Quote Posted by demagogue
Yeah, I should summarize my last post on that same point. What's the best album to start with if you're wanting to get into this band on a deeper level than just knowing a few singles?
They change so much between some albums that it's less a gradual progression than a complete turnaround, so getting into them is much the same.
I'd say the Bends is their most accessible
and decent album (Pablo's easy but pretty awful), with OK Computer following that. I'd say OK's the better album, but it needs more listens. Having said that, either of those would make for a good introduction.
If you already like experimental kinda stuff - go straight into Kid A and work backwards or forwards from there.
trevor the sheep on 15/10/2007 at 13:38
(
http://www.soundsoftheuniverse.com/releases/?id=10244#) more clips of the burial album. toxic, i mostly ignore reviews in the mainstream press and such so the adulation from the "middle-class" british music press (is the average music journalist ever going to be anything but middle class) you speak of has passed me by, except perhaps for impenetrable pretention wank-fest 'The Wire' giving the first lp album of the year last year and pitchfork's mostly positive one, i don't know who this 'everyone' is that you refer to. burial still seems to be fairly unknown to the average listener, perhaps less so than the rest of the dubstep scene (although the skream/digital mystikz vein of things are most likely more well-known at this point). i'm really looking forward to this album and think any recognition this gets is rightly deserved, plenty of dudes inside "the scene" are agreeing that this next one has the potential of being an album-of-the-00's contender, i guess whether this is hyperbole will only be known in hindsight
(besides the guy makes the tracks entirely in soundforge, how fucking insane is that)
Stitch on 15/10/2007 at 15:36
hey hey what about the new beirut not too shabby eh chaps
Back ON TOPIC, the moment in Nude when the brittle strings and vocals get sucked in to make room for the richest bass texture imaginable kills me.