Race vs. Gender (a USA political thread)

BrokenArts on 6/2/2008 at 18:01

I certainly didn't want to say it like that. But, you know as well as I do, its true, for the most part. People do want change. I want change. I wish to god I was wrong, hey, stranger things have happened. I just really don't see it happening. I bet McCain will be the next president.

I do hope in our life time (*sometime*), we will see either a black man or woman president. I hope so. For Billary, and Obama to come this far, has to say something. We will see change, just not right now.

Shoshin on 6/2/2008 at 18:34

Quote Posted by Queue

...English/Irish/Danish/Cherokee American (btw...get off my land)...

Shouldn't you have to get off your own land, then? ;)

heretic on 6/2/2008 at 18:43

Quote Posted by 37637598

No-one in the United States of America can honestly say it didn't once cross their mind that this is the FIRST dark-skin man running for presidential election in US history!

Never heard of Alan Keyes? He ran 3 times as a Republican.

Also, a black congresswoman by the name of Shirley Chisholm ran way back in 1972.

Then of course you've got Carol Moseley Braun and Jesse Jackson.

That's off the top of my head, I'm sure there were more.

Obama has certainly made the most succesfull bid yet, but he wasn't the first to run.

37637598 on 6/2/2008 at 18:54

Those people don't even exist, the world started on May 31st 1988 as far as I'm concerned:p

Ok so the first black man to run in MY US history,
as well as alot of voters.

Jesse doesn't count... He's president in his own ways.

You guys should know by now that everything I say is completely incorrect.

:joke:

heretic on 6/2/2008 at 19:18

Quote Posted by SD

By and large, the people who wouldn't elect a bro or a ho to the presidency are going to be the people who wouldn't vote Democrat in the first place.

That's "by and large" a myth. The Republican base was practically frothing at the mouth at the prospect of Rice's candidacy a few years back, and she is both black and a woman.

..and don't forget that it was Republican's in Georgia's legislature that repealed the Jim Crow laws as their first act after the Democrats hundred year reign.

Matthew on 6/2/2008 at 19:35

But didn't the Dixiecrat wing of the Democratic party essentially up sticks and join the GOP en masse in the 60s?

(Note - I am only asking, to clarify a statement read somewhere else)

heretic on 6/2/2008 at 19:41

Quote Posted by Matthew

But didn't the Dixiecrat wing of the Democratic party essentially up sticks and join the GOP en masse in the 60s?

(Note - I am only asking, to clarify a statement read somewhere else)

Yes, under then Pres. Lyndon Johnson who was a Democrat.

The actual votes were the clincher here:

From wiki:
The original House version: y/n

Democratic Party: 164-96 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

The Senate version:

Democratic Party: 46-22 (68%-32%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 186-35 (80%-20%)

paloalto90 on 6/2/2008 at 19:43

Huckabee a white tax and spend Republican.
McCain a white tax and spend Republican.
Hillary a white tax and spend democrat
Obama a black tax and spend democrat.

If you are for increasing the power of the central government and higher taxes I'd say this is your election!
Whoever gets elected is going to get the blame when the economy goes in the tank.So bring on the democrats I say!!!
And none of these folks are going to get us out of Iraq.

heretic on 6/2/2008 at 19:46

Quote Posted by paloalto90

Sad but oh so true...
Where the fuck is John Galt!?!

catbarf on 6/2/2008 at 20:05

I think the U.S. has a pretty terrible political system, when it comes down to it. Idiocy abounds in the full spectrum of government.

Well, anyway, I agree. Race or sex isn't really an issue at all.