Race vs. Gender (a USA political thread)

Ghostly Apparition on 16/2/2008 at 17:19

Quote Posted by paloalto90

Evidently he wants your kids from birth on up and a word to the candidate of hope,socialism has been tried and it doesn't work.

You mean socialism like Health care for all not just the filthy rich? or socialism like social security so the average working person doesn't end up a street person
in their golden years?
news flash to the corporate republicans, Facism has been tried and it doesn't work either.

The_Raven on 16/2/2008 at 17:36

Has there been any real system of government that actually works as it was supposed to?
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Yeah, I thought so.

heretic on 16/2/2008 at 18:10

Quote Posted by Stitch

Also II: fuck Ron Paul and his staunch support of the constitution.

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paloalto90 on 16/2/2008 at 18:20

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Yeah that kind of socialism as if government funded health care will deal with the problem of health care costs.
I know how efficient governments are about doing anything.

I wasn't aware the average working person was on the street.At least not any average working person I know.

You must be listening to too many democratic speeches.

heretic on 16/2/2008 at 18:32

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...Facism has been tried and it doesn't work either.

Laissez-faire capitalism is the very antitheses of fascism. I'm not going to argue that we still utilize this system, only that we should.

Swiss Mercenary on 16/2/2008 at 19:28

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I wasn't aware that China was the US?

1. I was talking about 20-30 years ago.

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We haven't had the most powerful military for a while.

2. Yes, you do. It's just all tied up in Europe/Korea/Middle East.

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In our defense the "American Boogeyman Socialism" is actually Stalinism.

Thanks for seeing that.

heretic on 16/2/2008 at 19:54

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Possibly because when you can criminalise guns, you can lock crooks up for having them. As opposed to letting them off.

Firearms and other weapon categories are already criminalized for all felons. I don't know how you come up with all of these pedantic fallacies but you might want to change sources.

Rug Burn Junky on 16/2/2008 at 19:56

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Only if you're on crack and don't understand the way the constitution works.

a flower in hell on 16/2/2008 at 20:18

Ron Paul is actually Ross Perot in disguise.

I bet his ears start hurting after a while.

Swiss Mercenary on 16/2/2008 at 20:45

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Firearms and other weapon categories are already criminalized for all felons. I don't know how you come up with all of these pedantic fallacies but you might want to change sources.

Only if they've been convicted as felons.

No gun control - guy with a gun - won't even get stopped and checked.

Gun control - guy with a gun - something else entirely.

That's how the argument goes. Doesn't mean I'm convinced by it.