Race vs. Gender (a USA political thread) - by ChickenMcOwnage
ChickenMcOwnage on 6/2/2008 at 01:13
Regarding the democratic primaries:
I just have to say that I'm starting to get pissed off from reading news articles and hearing people talk about being torn between voting for a black man and a white woman (not to mention hearing shocking racial and sexist comments about the two candidates). Are people really so shallow to vote based off of something so superficial? I guess I shouldn't be so surprised if they are. Actually, I'm amazed (and happy!) that a black man and a white woman even got this far.
All in all, I've never been so excited about an election ever.
Scots Taffer on 6/2/2008 at 01:15
better a nigger than a ho
Printer's Devil on 6/2/2008 at 01:31
I hear that Big O is going to paint the White House black.
37637598 on 6/2/2008 at 01:59
But then people would mistake it for a prison
ataricom on 6/2/2008 at 02:29
I'd rather have that than a White House-sized doghouse for Bill.
heretic on 6/2/2008 at 02:54
Quote Posted by ChickenMcOwnage
All in all, I've never been so excited about an election ever.
That's interesting, I've never felt quite so apathetic.
I think race and sex are such an issue this time around because the candidates are all so similiar across the board that race, sex and to a far lesser extant religion are all that make anybody really stand out.
I would never vote for nor against anyone for any of those factors though so in the end they do next to nothing as far as actually making any of them interesting IMO.
Coke or Pepsi folks, which will it be?
That's obviously somewhat of an oversimplification, but honestly, that's how I see it to a degree.
Scots Taffer on 6/2/2008 at 02:55
more like one supports legalising pot the other doesn't
game over man
Stitch on 6/2/2008 at 03:00
Quote Posted by heretic
That's obviously somewhat of an oversimplification, but honestly, that's how I see it to a degree.
Then you see nothing, which for your sake let's hope is merely due to indifference.
In other news, here's a great editorial by Michael Chabon (TTLG book kru alumni :cool:) on Obama: (
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/03/AR2008020302526_pf.html) Obama vs. the Phobocracy.
heretic on 6/2/2008 at 03:06
Quote Posted by Stitch
Then you see nothing, which for your sake let's hope is merely due to indifference.
Yeah, I thought I made that quite clear.
This isn't anything new, candidates that might truly bring about change one way or the other do not stand a chance. That's why folks like Kucinich and Paul are so far out there, not planting themselves in issues that have been, and shall remain tied up in congress for decades.
Queue on 6/2/2008 at 04:58
Actually, I quit supporting Mr. Obama because of (yup, this is going to be a doozy) racism.
I never once thought of him as a black man--never. I thought of him as nothing more than an American. Potentially, he was someone whom I could see myself supporting, trusting, someone that incites excitement. I could see him as someone that would bring an integrity back to our government, that would speak with a voice of undeniable distinction instead of mutilated diction.
Yes, to me, he was nothing but another American running for President. It didn't matter whether he was black or white--I was totally colorblind.
But something changed around the time Oprah came out with her support. Suddenly, Mr. Obama is telling me that he is a black man, no longer just another American. Suddenly, there are blacks panels on NPR discussing Mr. Obama's blackness and talking about the "brother" when referring to Mr. Obama; along with "brother" this and "sister" that when referring to other black Americans. Even Mr. Obama himself has used the brother/sister epitaph. What happened to all of us being Americans? What happened to fellow humans. Am I not your "brother" just because I am a white.
I don't see color--I see only people! But now, I'm being reminded that I can't do that. Mr. Obama is running for President as a black man, not a senator from Illinois. And, I find that unsettling. But, more importantly, I believe that is anything but change! Far, far from it. It's nothing more than the same old racist crap that continues to be perpetuated day after day after day. It continuation of a sense of segregation.
Racism would end in this country if people would quit being racist--and that means quit identifying yourself as anything but an American man or an American woman. Labeling yourself only does one thing: GIVES YOU A LABEL!
Should I say that I'm an English/Irish/Danish/Cherokee American (btw...get off my land) since that is my heritage? Or am I just an American mut like everyone else. Labeling seems kind of silly, doesn't it? So then why, if one complains about racism, would one label themselves? I wish everyone would be colorblind--especially the people of color. Being proud of your heritage is one thing, giving yourself a label is just racist.
...awaiting the hate-mail :cheeky:
