New Horizon on 13/11/2012 at 14:40
Quote Posted by Vivian
Yeah, I just read that. Like you say, too many aliens doing not that much, but for the first half at least waaaay better. The setup is much, much better thought out, character motivation seems plausible, the whole star map in a cave thing is developed enough that it seems like it might even be worth sending a ship across the galaxy for, the ship and crew itself seem like they actually know what they are doing, etc etc. I mean, it needs work. There is a lot of stupid in the last third. But it is a lot better than the actual film.
Read this last night and agree it's much better than what was filmed...even though I did like the film.
Although I think the concept they went with in the new script, not being a direct prequel, works...I think David Lindelof really butchered the script. Definitely an over rated writer.
zombe on 19/5/2014 at 09:11
"new Blade Runner" ... wow, full stop ...
fuck Prometheus, why is there a moron working on new Blade Runner? Why!?
Not that i hold Blade Runner hostage or something, but why Blade Runner? What does one do with it? Turn it into sci-fi soap? Who buys that? ... looks like a silly/risky business with an almost guaranteed negative outcry.
june gloom on 19/5/2014 at 09:26
As the resident #1 Blade Runner fan here, I want to say that I'm cautiously optimistic if Harrison Ford is involved.
Ridley Scott believes his own hype but I'm hoping that with a solid enough script a new BR will be fine.
Thirith on 19/5/2014 at 09:32
Michael Green, who's supposedly co-writing this, has done some great stuff, e.g. Kings. He's also worked on dreadful stuff, such as Green Lantern apparently was, but I don't know to what extent such films are ruined by writing by committee.
demagogue on 19/5/2014 at 09:37
I at least like the sort of style we see in scifi these days, a sort of clean minimalist aesthetic, and Prometheus had it at points, especially at the start IIRC. But only at points; at other points it didn't stick to the formula and wasn't memorable. In contrast I thought Oblivion nailed that aesthetic and it was one of the best parts of that movie (the story was at least respectable).
Thirith on 19/5/2014 at 09:44
That's an interesting conflation: sticking to the formula and being memorable. :p Visually, I consider Prometheus a success pretty much throughout; it's almost the definition of the kind of film that I'd love to frame and hang on the wall for me, as long as I don't need to listen to the dialogue and consider the wonky plot.
demagogue on 19/5/2014 at 09:52
My memory is slipping, maybe, but from what I recall it was when they used that clean minimalist aesthetic that it stands out in my memory. That may well have been a large percent of the movie TBH. Like AD was saying, the cave parts and old trodden Giger aesthetic wasn't holding up this time (no disrespect to the recently departed).
I probably should have framed it more as one formula vs another formula rather than "formula = memorable" per se. Just mean "style" by the term. The clean aesthetic just seems fresher in contrast to the recent past; it might itself get dated too. Actually it's funny that it faintly reminds me of 1950s clean scifi, although a more stylish version and not the bulky original brand. Even as something fresh it's a kind of throwback. But maybe all aesthetics are throwbacks in some way, and it's just a pendulum back and forth, the same old baroque vs iconoclasm tennis match that's been going on for centuries.
zombe on 19/5/2014 at 09:57
Blade Runner, as i see it, was a happy accident of circumstances and persons at that specific time. Having Ford would help the chances, but i do not think it can happen again. Blade Runner already told what it had to tell ... what would the new one do?
The only semi-sane thing i can think of is to retell the story, more-or-less verbatim. With equal amount of ambiguity (si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses).
... i just can not see anything good coming from it either way :/.
PS. "moron" was not actually, at least not entirely, geared towards Green - it is the undertaking itself that seems moronic. I do not consider myself to be competent in assessing Greens abilities.
Mr.Duck on 19/5/2014 at 10:34
Quote Posted by dethtoll
As the resident #1 Blade Runner fan here...
Numero Uno right here, baby. Step aside, Nexus 5.
:cool:
uNf!
On the BR sequel: I'm not in favor of it, but since it'll be happening I shall pray it is worthy of the first film.....or as humanely close as possible. That's my bit for this thread. See you in the funny papers.
Ah, yes....fuck Prometheus. That is all now.
