Nicker on 12/6/2012 at 03:40
SHAW: Cool robo-surgeon!
VICKERS: GTFO! That’s my personal robo-surgeon on my personal lifeboat because I have a near pathological desire not to perish.
Later that same movie...
SHAW: Get this alien-baby out of my womb!
ROBO-SURGEON: Sorry, I am not configured for female patients, despite being purchased by a woman with a near pathological desire not to perish.
SHAW: OK, just give me a C-Section then.
ROBO-SURGEON: Rodger that! Prepare for gentleman’s birthing procedure! Good thing I happen to have these obstetrics forceps handy, regardless...
Bakerman on 12/6/2012 at 04:01
Nicker - a friend of mine reckons the surgical pod was for Weyland, not Vickers. Made sense to me!
catbarf on 12/6/2012 at 04:22
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Nicker - a friend of mine reckons the surgical pod was for Weyland, not Vickers. Made sense to me! Oh, uh, spoilers.
I figured as much, but wasn't Vickers genuinely surprised that daddy tagged along for the ride?
Fafhrd on 12/6/2012 at 04:39
No, she knew he was there. She has the conversation with David after he chats with Weyland in his cryo pod where she asks what Weyland said.
Nicker on 12/6/2012 at 06:09
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Nicker - a friend of mine reckons the surgical pod was for Weyland, not Vickers. Made sense to me! Oh, uh, spoilers.
I can't imagine that anyone reading this far in this thread has not seen the movie yet but just in case...
What would Weyland need obstetrical forceps for?What Fafhrd said and...
... they missed an opportunity. Given Weyland's extreme pro living motives, it might have been more interesting if the r-s had refused to perform a termination without a cooling off period, mandatory counselling and permission from two consulting experts.Bakerman on 12/6/2012 at 09:03
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What would Weyland need obstetrical forceps for?I never said it would stand up in
court.
(Read: yeah, I don't really think there's a sensible explanation here. I always thought she just went through the menus and selected some other type of operation meant for men. That... required forceps.)Harvester on 12/6/2012 at 10:12
Are the obstetrical forceps ever shown?
[spoiler]Because IIRC she asks for a C-section, the machine tells her it's configured for males, and then she selects the "remove foreign object from abdominal area" option (which could also happen for a man, for example with a bullet or a piece of shrapnel) and the machine cuts it out. I distinctly remember the "remove foreign object" setting she chooses, but I don't recall seeing any obstetrical forceps being shown or talked about.[/spoiler]
Nicker on 12/6/2012 at 12:48
Quote Posted by Harvester
Are the obstetrical forceps ever shown?
(
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/241867077/Tarnier_Obstetrical_Forceps_40cm_15_3_4.jpg) Yes.
They were used to grip the squid-kid.It's not of any specific import, just one of way too many procedural, plot and character inconsistencies that made the script read like a road map from one SFX shot to the next. I love the majority of Scott's films but he, or somebody, missed too many opportunities.
Sombras on 12/6/2012 at 12:58
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Not this again. It clearly states when they arrive that it is LV223. I've seen this error all over the place, and the supposed lack of continuity as a problem with the film when it's you people who didn't pay attention making a mistake. And I don't mean to be rude but anyone who misses this
wasn't paying attention.
Isn't this the entire point? They have done this all over the place and Earth is the linked host planet for the LV223, which is why the Engineers from there keep visiting and making contact with humans throughout the ages.
They clearly have a biotech facility and a linked "human" (more one this later) planet. Why? Well it looks like they are making Alien eggs, and in order to do it they need the set up; pluripotential goo (which is why it turns into different stuff) and hosts (humans) to go through the (many) cycles and end up with Alien eggs. This is why the Engineer is heading to Earth - it's his mission and was abandoned 200 years ago. We were never meant to get this technologically advanced. The reason he is in cryo is that he was never woken up and can't very well do so while he is asleep. The other Engineers bungled the mission and got infected/impregnated. This likely happened in the other pyramids and they all came to this one to escape.
With regards to the "why?" - there could be a couple of reasons. 1. That's just the plan; get the numbers up, get the eggs, PROFIT. 2. The initial attack on Earth was supposed to be about 2000 years ago. Given the exposition about faith and creators is this a hint at our failure to recognise our place in the universe - that around the time of Christ it became clear to them that spiritually we had failed to recognise and follow the true "faith"? They left clues after all...
The ship on LV426 is carrying the final cargo but the pilot was obviously impregnated. For whatever reason he has continued on his delivery mission/been volunteered to go on it and succumbed to the Alien and crashed.
Other plot points.
David - on a mission from Weyland. Doesn't know what the goo will do an experiments on a crew member. How is this hard to get?
Shaw - doesn't know how she got infected, only that she has got rid of it. Why would she flip out, especially when doing that will stop her from getting to meet the Engineer and ask her questions.
The 100% DNA question. Not all DNA is expressed all the time. These guys are DNA engineers - they can likely manipulate it well enough to alter sizes. This why earlier I calle dus "humans". We are engineered from them, but that gives no guarantee that we'll be exactly like them, or indeed that all the other "human" planets are like them or us.
They were sent. Ash knew all along.
