rachel on 8/10/2008 at 20:44
Though definitely too harsh, they're legitimate concerns. Deus Ex is primarily a PC game, and DXIW was botched because of consolitis...
Manwe on 8/10/2008 at 20:49
Quote Posted by Malleus
What? If it's not just speculation on your part then source pls.
That's just an assumption I made and I'm probably wrong, but you know why would they make leaning possible if they have their awesome cover system. Of course having the option to chose between the two would be great but I doubt that will happen. And jtr7 I don't think that whatever we say will have any impact on the development of the game like I don't think anything people said in the bioshock forum influenced the developers in any way, but again I may be wrong.
Papy on 8/10/2008 at 21:00
Quote Posted by René
To me, Deus Ex is about choices & consequences, non-linearity, customization, different ways to complete an objective, story, dialogue, character interaction, a Cyberpunk world, a massive conspiracy, etc. All aspects Deus Ex 3 has in spades.
Does it have "needs"? Invisible War had all what you said, but the sad truth is it didn't have needs. It's great to have choices, but if they don't matter then why should I care? Because something looks "cool"? The sad truth is I won't care about anything if I don't need to and I will consider the game as a failure.
Here's one question I'd like you to answer : why do people play video games?
Zygoptera on 8/10/2008 at 21:39
Lean keys often get the chop when consoles are involved because of the limited number of buttons a controller has, with lean needing two buttons which could be used more 'productively' elsewhere, and because leaning is not that common in console games. The idea of having a cover button in a fps rather than a third person title seems a little odd, but then (IIRC, as I don't think I ever used it and just read about it in the manual) TDS had something potentially similar where you could flatten yourself against a wall and edge along and which you certainly could safely ignore.
Auto heal's a nothing. Should have been in the original- one of the first things you'd give your highly valuable nano augmented agents would be some sort of auto heal, probably even before basic firearms training. So long as it uses {finite resource} and doesn't become a cheesy vita chamberesque auto-win there's no problem. Though I'd personally prefer it to be augmentation based, limited (healing to 50% total or something) and be customisable.
DDL on 8/10/2008 at 21:45
Er...there was an augmentation based, finite resource, upgradeable autoheal in the first game.
It just wasn't forced on you from the outset, for the entire duration of the game, no questions allowed.
Yakoob on 8/10/2008 at 21:53
TTLG - we don't allow evolution here.
van HellSing on 8/10/2008 at 21:55
Quote Posted by Yakoob
TTLG - we don't allow devolution here.
Fixed.
The_Raven on 8/10/2008 at 22:13
Quote Posted by DDL
Er...there was an augmentation based, finite resource, upgradeable autoheal in the first game.
It just wasn't forced on you from the outset, for the entire duration of the game, no questions allowed.
I was waiting for someone to bring that up; however, as mentioned, it is hardly unlimited and heals very little initially. There's a game that I'm trying to remember where there was a form of autoheal, but it would only regenerate the first 10% of your health. The problem with that system was that it meant that if you ran over a health pack before your health regenerated, you ended up wasting part of it.
EDIT: I played it relatively recently...Undying?
EDIT2: Hell, it might even have been Max Payne.
van HellSing on 8/10/2008 at 22:23
FEAR?
The_Raven on 8/10/2008 at 22:28
Never played it. My current computer, which I think is in the process of slowly crapping out on me*, is just a 950Mhz CPU with 256MB of RAM and a shitty Geforce 2 MX 100/200.
*Basically, it takes 6 reboots before win2k will load properly without freezing or blue screening on me. It used to be a lot worse, but I just recently reformatted the hard drive and started again from scratch. The only things left that I can think of now is either replacing the BIOS battery or flashing the BIOS. Right now, I'm leaning towards my 6 year old motherboard slowly dying on me. So ultimately, I don't think there's much I can do about it right now. I'm tempted to try flashing the BIOS but I'm concerned with the instability that it is displaying under cold boots, things will boot perfectly fine on a warm one once the operating system loads properly, and that I'll end up bricking the thing. Sadly, it is all this student has for the moment.
