Samantha1 on 14/3/2021 at 09:30
I have a weird design error with some people in Thief Gold Fanmissions. The face of the people is on the backside, while the back is on the front side, which makes them look very weird.
This mistake appears randomly and most of the time its the thiefs that look like that but sometimes servants too and sometimes the thiefs look normal aswell.
This is what it looks like: (
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M0ZRCy4xuZXyxndUQHxkYFTgr_EqK4Oz/view?usp=sharing)
I´m currently playing the FM "Roberts painting" and there this mistake appears again with every thief.
Does anyone know why this mistake occurs? Am I missing a script or sth.? I downloaded the available thiefgold fix a few days ago and before that I didn´t play thief gold since years.
marbleman on 14/3/2021 at 11:02
There's an easy way of forcing character detail for it to work with "improved" meshes, but here's the correct way.
Open the PATCHES folder in your Thief directory and access mesh.crf. You can access it like any other archive using WinRar or 7zip.
Then, delete everything from the main archive except armcn2.bin and armcn2.cal. In the txt16 subfolder, delete everything except Chandar1.tga and Shandar1.tga. The reason you need to keep those four files is so that Constantine's sword works.
That's it. Enjoy the properly-looking meshes. :)
wycha on 14/3/2021 at 11:18
Have similar issue but only with thieves models and violet-dressed noblewomen. Good to know how easy the solution is but I will keep it, great creepy factor and it genuinely spooks me every time.
Samantha1 on 14/3/2021 at 12:27
Quote Posted by marbleman
There's an easy way of forcing character detail for it to work with "improved" meshes, but here's the correct way.
Open the PATCHES folder in your Thief directory and access mesh.crf. You can access it like any other archive using WinRar or 7zip.
Then, delete everything from the main archive except armcn2.bin and armcn2.cal. In the txt16 subfolder, delete everything except Chandar1.tga and Shandar1.tga. The reason you need to keep those four files is so that Constantine's sword works.
That's it. Enjoy the properly-looking meshes. :)
Thank you, I will try this out right away! :)
Quote Posted by wycha
Have similar issue but only with thieves models and violet-dressed noblewomen. Good to know how easy the solution is
but I will keep it, great creepy factor and it genuinely spooks me every time.:laff: You are definitely right about the spook factor. The first time I saw this I was like "what the hell is this?!" xD and you are right the violet-dressed noblewoman always looks like this too.
Stingm on 14/3/2021 at 19:29
I ran into the same type issue in the fan mission Deadly Triangle. 2 of the models in the mission were completely white. This hasn't happened in any other missions including original missions so far. Could this be fixed the same way or is it a separate issue?
voodoo47 on 14/3/2021 at 22:29
probably separate - either a texture missing, or ObjTextures16 and MeshTextures16 missing from dark.cfg.
Quote Posted by Samantha1
Does anyone know why this mistake occurs?
something is forcing lowres characters (ex. ThiefGuard 2449). ideally, you'd stop it from doing that - make sure character_detail is set to 1 in cam.cfg, and that no other file is overriding the setting (checked the FM, and it is not doing that, so it's something else).
TFix has been put together with the higher res AI models in mind, the lowres ones are not supported.
Samantha1 on 15/3/2021 at 17:38
Quote Posted by marbleman
Open the PATCHES folder in your Thief directory and access mesh.crf. You can access it like any other archive using WinRar or 7zip. Then, delete everything from the main archive except armcn2.bin and armcn2.cal.
Yep, that I did.
Quote Posted by marbleman
In the txt16 subfolder, delete everything except Chandar1.tga and Shandar1.tga. The reason you need to keep those four files is so that Constantine's sword works.
I have a folder txt16, but there are no Chandar1.tga and Shandar1.tga in there. Theres stuff like "monkey" "monkeyg", but nothing like the two you mentioned. The directory is my thief gold then MODS\mesh\Txt16. is this the one you mean? Should I delete evrything in there?
marbleman on 15/3/2021 at 18:14
The folder I'm talking about is PATCHES\mesh\txt16. Chandar1.tga and Shandar1.tga should be in it. Everything else you can delete.
Samantha1 on 15/3/2021 at 19:24
I dont have that folder.. Under patches there´s only the zip mesh for which I deleted everything but armcn2.bin and armcn2.cal like you mentioned above.
Other than that in the folder patches is only fam.crf, intrface.crf and obj.crf, nothing else.
marbleman on 15/3/2021 at 19:48
Are you sure you didn't accidentally delete it along with the other files?