Enchantermon on 14/1/2010 at 05:59
There's less of a likelyhood of an employer seeing those pictures, however. And if you were tagged in it, you would be notified, so you can nicely ask the poster that those pictures be removed or that you be cropped out. If he refuses, you can at least untag yourself so your prospective employer would be much less likely to see them.
Jackablade on 14/1/2010 at 06:03
Fuck this bullshit. If my employer doesn't hire me because I drink when I'm not at work fuck 'em.
june gloom on 14/1/2010 at 06:47
Quote Posted by Enchantermon
There's less of a likelyhood of an employer seeing those pictures, however. And if you were tagged in it, you would be notified, so you can nicely ask the poster that those pictures be removed or that you be cropped out. If he refuses, you can at least untag yourself so your prospective employer would be much less likely to see them.
Any employer who actually cares enough to go looking for this shit is probably going to try and look at related FB pages too.
Enchantermon on 14/1/2010 at 07:01
Maybe, though the ones I've talked to stressed being careful about the things you put on your profile, specifically.
Melan on 14/1/2010 at 08:06
Quote Posted by Ringwraith
I exercise my right to privacy by not being registered on his website. HAHAHA.
Precisely.
Also, there is no "public privacy". There is public information and there is private information. What has changed is not the relationship between the two, but the fact that once information on you goes public,
it can stay public forever. So instead of someone's hazy recollections of you retching into a bucketful of ice, a mobile-snapped video can be archived and distributed at a whim. You may even become an Internet phenomenon if someone edits in some music and uploads it to Youtube.
Just to note, all of that information can be and will be used by any employer or HR agent who cares anything about the quality of his or her workforce. Yes of course, they will spend those two hours mining Facebook/Twitter/whatever and connecting the dots. Maybe they will tell you. Maybe they won't. But they
will do it and they
will make decisions based on it.
Welcome to real life where actions have consequences, pal.
Fingernail on 14/1/2010 at 09:48
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Any employer who actually cares enough to go looking for this shit is probably going to try and look at related FB pages too.
An employer is going to search through all your friends' photos (the ones that
are on facebook, and those who have their photos public, and let's just assume they have somehow found out who your friends are (remember, you're not on facebook or you have it set private so there's no public friends list)) to find untagged pictures of you before employing you?
I'm pretty sure that's unrealistic. If you're not tagged, even if you're tagged as a name but not linked to a facebook profile, I suggest that it would be practically impossible to do this; you're just an inidentified, unsearchable collection of pixels.
snowcap21 on 14/1/2010 at 10:10
While I agree that expecting privacy at the internet is naive, I can see where the idea comes from. Our privacy is for a great part the product of convention. We wouldn't expect the interviewer to look us up on the phone book and then come over to our house and peep into the windows to see how we live and if we aren't a bit messy. Or to have a look at our garbage if we eat healthy. That some do it (or let private detectives do the dirty work) and that it's quite easy to do doesn't change the fact, that we consider it an inacceptable intrusion in our privacy.
There are many situations where we expect people in general or people that don't belong to a certain group not to look, even if they easily could.
N'Al on 14/1/2010 at 10:27
Any potential employer already impressed enough by your CV to grant you an interview would be pretty foolish to not at least consider you for the job purely on the basis of a few photographs posted on Facebook*. The employer does need to be realistic about the fact that the employee does have a life outside work, and may 'let loose' during his time off at times (again, this is all dependent on how severe the pictures in question are, of course). In the end, the employer should be interested in getting the best person for the job, and if the employer's 'escapades' outside of work don't impact the job (s)he's doing during work, then frankly the pics aren't really all that relevant. But just off-handedly rejecting an otherwise good candidate is just foolish.
Having said that, if the employer were to be faced with a choice of two candidates equally promising on the basis of their CVs - but one with compromising pictures, one without - I have no doubt that they'd go for the one without the pics.
So it is, as Enchantermon said, simply about being careful about the things you post on your profile.
* Assuming it is only a few, of course, and doesn't read like the diary of a relapsed alcoholics anonymous.
Kolya on 14/1/2010 at 13:46
Privacy is not what you (can) hide. It's a social convention. This sort of data mining is no different from stalking a person. Just because the interviewer can do it, doesn't mean it's in their rights or decent to do it.
I could probably dig up a few pictures about anyone in this thread and put them on a webpage, outside of your reach, connecting them with your nicknames here and some juicy posts you made in the past. Now would it be your own fault, for ever putting that information online, or would that make me an asshole who just intruded on your privacy? That is the shift of responsibility I'm getting at.
The more we connect online the less we will be able to control all that data. And when enough people have suffered from a breach of their privacy the convention changes.
Enchantermon on 14/1/2010 at 22:51
Quote Posted by Fingernail
An employer is going to search through all your friends' photos (the ones that
are on facebook, and those who have their photos public, and let's just assume they have somehow found out who your friends are (remember, you're not on facebook or you have it set private so there's no public friends list)) to find untagged pictures of you before employing you?
I doubt that. But I have no doubt that if they find your profile on Facebook, they will look at your posts and your pictures.
Quote Posted by Kolya
Just because the interviewer can do it, doesn't mean it's in their rights or decent to do it.
But how is it not in their rights? It sounds as if you're saying that if you put up a picture on Facebook for your friends to see and people for whom the picture was not meant see it, then they are invading your privacy.
Quote Posted by Kolya
I could probably dig up a few pictures about anyone in this thread and put them on a webpage, outside of your reach, connecting them with your nicknames here and some juicy posts you made in the past.
Perhaps, though this very fact is one reason I at least try to remain above reproach.
Quote Posted by Kolya
Now would it be your own fault, for ever putting that information online, or would that make me an asshole who just intruded on your privacy?
I don't see that as an intrusion of privacy. If you're going to do that, you would be using information that was provided for you. What you do with the information, what any of us do with the information available on the internet, is ultimately up to us to decide.
