Dr. Dumb_lunatic on 29/11/2005 at 10:21
Yep. It checks for mods on the weapon you pick up, and mods on the weapon you own, and gives you the best of both.
Which is unrealistic, but nice.
:D
Jonesy on 29/11/2005 at 12:40
The laser sight bug is basically as follows: You stick the laser sight on, it improves your ret closing capabilities. But also, where the laser is, the bullet goes. So basically all you have to do is stick the laser on, and direct the little red circle to the head, and you get a headshot. Since you find a laser on Liberty, it makes the pistol one of the best weapons in the game with it on.
Sticking a scope on breaks the laser sight bug, by the way.
moop on 29/11/2005 at 15:44
Why would the laser mod's accuracy be considered a bug? Considering the engine, and how a real person could easily aim with a laser-sighted weapon to a great degree of accuracy, I think the developers made the mod function the most realistic way they knew how, without overdeveloping it. Is there really evidence that someone botched its design, or that it wasn't meant to behave as it does? Maybe the loss of perfect accuracy after adding the scope is the real bug, not the intent of (near) perfect accuracy of the laser sight?
TheGreatGodPan on 29/11/2005 at 17:12
The way to do it is have the bullet go where the laser is, but make the laser wobble around a lot.
Dr. Dumb_lunatic on 29/11/2005 at 17:39
Which actually happens if you use both at the same time, so yeah, should've been easily implementable.
Try laser-sighting the sniper rifle and scoping in: that red dot jumps all over the shop. The bitch.
On my first playthrough I chose the rifle at the docks, discovered how severe the accuracy drop was, cursed, and didn't actually make a zoomed sniper kill till maybe osgoods' rooftops. :(
Matthew on 29/11/2005 at 17:45
Made it all the sweeter though, surely? ;)
Snarespawn on 30/11/2005 at 02:56
Quote Posted by moop
Why would the laser mod's accuracy be considered a bug?
Because it allows you to pick the wings off of a fly 500 yards away while sprinting like a gazelle. Given the way they treat aiming in Deus Ex, I sincerely doubt that a single common mod should be doing that for you.
moop on 30/11/2005 at 17:38
Quote Posted by Snarespawn
Because it allows you to pick the wings off of a fly 500 yards away while sprinting like a gazelle. Given the way they treat aiming in Deus Ex, I sincerely doubt that a single common mod should be doing that for you.
I have to disagree. If you turn off player bob, maybe it's a little easier to hit targets. If you have a ridiculously large monitor with a very high screen resolution, perhaps that might make it still a little easier. However, if you can see and hit a moving target at 500 yeards in DX, the laser sight mod probably had far less influence than simple chance. In real life, a brightly lit red dot would, I suspect, significantly increase one's chance of hitting their target. But without a scope (which would cancel the effect, as has been mentioned already), the laser mod is meant to simulate the great amount of aiming assistance a shooter would get. They simply did the best they could in the time to code they had, and the space they had to code.
I can see how you may still insist that it is imbalanced... but if you don't like what they did, you are of course free to write your own laser mod code. How would you change it?
Snarespawn on 30/11/2005 at 22:52
Quote Posted by moop
How would you change it?
I would cut the reticle space in half when using the laser mod so there's a lot less room to miss.
Jonesy on 1/12/2005 at 01:08
Quote Posted by Snarespawn
I would cut the reticle space in half when using the laser mod so there's a lot less room to miss.
It does that, IIRC, and makes the reticle get smaller faster.
