Para?noid on 23/5/2006 at 11:34
Quote Posted by Scots_Taffer
HAHAHA.
No, but seriously, shut the fuck up. Both are indie films that deal with time travel in a fairly non-standard, quirky and interesting way both with a thriller/mystery twist.
If that was aimed at me then you and I are about to have a falling out
Scots Taffer on 23/5/2006 at 11:41
You and me.
After school.
By the climbing frame.
YOU'RE DEAD.
I think I was being semi-serious at the time, but upon reflection, I was talking shite.
Para?noid on 23/5/2006 at 11:52
Damn son
Anyway my first comment wasn't aimed at you. Hell, it's not like I read anyone elses posts anyway :ebil:
oudeis on 20/8/2006 at 05:38
what in the uttermost fuck did l just watch? why did l not want to see the timeclock on my video player so l couldn't guess when the film was winding up? why did this movie make my stomach clench with dread (answer: the narrator- the tone of helplessness before an inevitable catastrophe)? what the hell did star city have to do with it, and am l correct in that it is the russian equivalent of cape canaveral? ( l could look that answer up on wikipedaia, but then would l stop myself from asking it in the first place, and then never learn what it was?) what, ultimately, was that?
l kept expecting some horrendous tragedy, maybe a la ron silver's two iterations melting each other in 'timecop' or a global apocalypse. l'm still not certain what did happen. anyway, at least it didn't have carnivorous dinosaurs roaming present day earth or or a statue of tim roth in an ape costume enthroned in the lincoln monument.
edit- just so it's clear, l really liked this a lot.
Aerothorn on 20/8/2006 at 22:55
The problem with indie movies is THEY COST TOO DAMN MUCH TO BUY ON DVD.
me wants it yes
TheGreatGodPan on 21/8/2006 at 04:07
Just saw it a few days ago. Good, but confusing. The wikipedia article helped.
Qooper on 14/3/2009 at 11:11
I watched it a few days ago for the first time, and yesterday for a second time. What a treasure! This movie leaves others behind so far away it's not even difficult to say it's the best movie I've ever seen.
Someone asked about the timers and why you have to leave the machines running. I didn't understand that at first either, but upon watching it again it hit me. Like they explained, you have two points in time. Let point A be the point where one starts the machine, and point B the point where one enters the machine. Let's say A is @ 0800 and B is @ 0810. So when you enter the machine at B, you have to stay inside for 10 minutes to exit at A. But if you don't have a timer, you'd see yourself starting the machine when you exit. Dangerous due to causality and such. You want to use a timer, so you can actually be elsewhere when the machine starts. The starting point is the point where one exits the machine. Remember in that one scene where Abe exits first, then waits for Aaron to exit, then says to Aaron: "You exited too early."? Aaron exited later from our perspective, but inside the box he actually exited earlier, so his travel backward in time was shorter.
Also, very interesting when they experiment with the wrist watches. I understand the point about an object not being able to exit at point A, so the time inside the box is always doubled (first travelling from B to A, then back again). However, what if they decided to open the hatch right after they started the machine. Would the wrist watches be there? Also, I didn't quite understand how the uncertainty principle was related. Why would the object turn back _again_ at B? Why would it do this at least 1300 times?
I don't want to end my post in a spoiler-tag, so:
Excellent movie. I recommend you watch it if you haven't. If you have, it wouldn't hurt to watch it again.
SubJeff on 16/3/2009 at 11:01
I should have followed up that I did see this in the end and greatly enjoyed it. It is a massive headmess but its beautifully done. I agree with Scots on the audio though - it made the film both more difficult to understand but simultaneously more immersive.
Nameless Voice on 17/3/2009 at 14:11
I also saw this recently. It was one of those films that left me feeling that I was completely stupid because I couldn't make heads or tails of the plot after a certain point.
doctorfrog on 17/3/2009 at 21:11
I also just saw this a few weeks ago. I was a bit annoyed and felt kinda dumb that I quickly became lost in the time traveling. It wasn't until after it was over that I found out online the basic mechanic of the machine itself. However, the unsteady, somehow inimical atmosphere and grainy look of the film was enough to earn it a spot on my bookshelf. It really made suburbia look like a foreign, terrifying place.
I also kind of like how twisted the timelines became; so many SF movies and TV spell things out and keep things simple in the extreme, this one seemed to take every possible curve in fake temporal mechanics, and ignore Doc Brown's patented universe-destroying paradoxes in favor of attempting to resolve every possible thing that could go wrong in time travel. It's a great movie for that alone, whether or not it all adds up.
As for the multiple timelines and technobabble that flew over my head in the first runthrough, that'll be an interesting puzzle to unravel over future viewings. Thumbs up for the ambition and low-budget appeal.
EDIT: I just read OnionBob's review, and the 'feeling' I indicate above is close to what he's saying, I think. It's that feeling, which Bob also compares to an album, which has also lead me to transcode the movie to be playable on my iPod: there's no reason I'd do this unless I intend to experience it the same as I would a good collection of songs.
