jay pettitt on 6/9/2013 at 13:25
I don't know about you, but I'm pretty interested in hearing about how new folks are finding nuThief.
Obviously I'm interested in the old guard too, 'cos that's my peer group - but I wouldn't necessarily weight their opinions too highly. Quite a few old Thief fans gave Dishonored's stealthing a hard time because it was different. But different isn't the same thing as bad.
Renault on 6/9/2013 at 13:47
I'm interested too, but it should have been a mix of old and new.
Nuth on 6/9/2013 at 16:45
Quote Posted by Brethren
except for maybe Master Taffer, and even he's too young to be an old school, original Thief fan
I think I've seen a comment from Master Taffer that said he's been playing Thief since 1998.
Tomi on 6/9/2013 at 18:30
Well, I think it's fairly safe to assume that someone called Master Taffer is a fan of Thief...
Renault on 6/9/2013 at 18:45
Quote Posted by jay pettitt
Quite a few old Thief fans gave Dishonored's stealthing a hard time because it was different. But different isn't the same thing as bad.
In this case it was though. I'm not saying Dishonored was a bad game - it wasn't - it was very good, but the stealth part of it left tons to be desired. Not a good system at all.
Quote Posted by Tomi
Well, I think it's fairly safe to assume that someone called Master
Taffer is a fan of Thief...
Oh, well if it's that easy, I'll just change my username to King Midas. :p
ZylonBane on 6/9/2013 at 18:58
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
I never had the idea do dislike the movement controls in TDS before I read the complaints about it here. :erg:
All this establishes is that you are apparently incredibly unobservant.
Robert4222 on 6/9/2013 at 19:50
Stealth options were very limited in Dishonored, not to mention that if you have a taffer soul and want to steal most goods, you have to deal with too many guards.
Beleg Cúthalion on 6/9/2013 at 22:27
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
All this establishes is that you are apparently incredibly unobservant.
Rather that I might have a different approach to what to accept as "real" from a game's output and what throws me out of immersion. You wouldn't be pretentious enough to judge where the suspension of disbelief was appropriate and where not, would you? And shouldn't there be a relative pronoun in your sentence?
Goldmoon Dawn on 6/9/2013 at 23:57
If we are talking about the broken movement in Deadly Shadow here, then yeah. To any seasoned Thief veteran, the movement was broken upon first inspection. If you were a newcomer to the series via Deadly, then I understand how you could have missed it, and ultimately glossed it over. I dont remember, Beleg, was Deadly your first Thief experience?
Vivian on 7/9/2013 at 00:04
Quote Posted by Brethren
the stealth part of it left tons to be desired. Not a good system at all.
I liked it. Once you got your head round being basically visible, if not particularly noticeable at range, it felt entirely natural. Someone looking at you could see you. You had to leverage your speed, AI vision cones, distraction techniques, and the fact you could teleport to a rooftop on the other side of the street to avoid being seen.
