Thief13x on 19/9/2007 at 23:38
Quote Posted by Shug
I wouldn't have described it as 'violently' resisting arrest, but just looking at the video the almost awkward air of the audience (lol) indicates the guy was probably a bit of a nut
In his defense, UCF is home to about 40,000 students, you honestly won't see the same person twice in four years
Quote Posted by *Zaccheus*
Not a completely neutral witness then.
Well you don't expect to be dragged away by cops in that situation do you. At least I don't.
from news reports I've read, the situation had already deteriorated before the clip started, it wasn't as spontaneous as the video suggested
catbarf on 20/9/2007 at 01:35
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
I wasn't comparing students to dogs. I was trying to explain that they didn't actually tase him, they shocked him. The sensation would have been similar to what an electric dog collar does, i.e. a sharp pain but nothing incapacitating.
Did you notice the screaming? Getting tased isn't fun, no matter what setting it's at. Police don't use tasers because they are less painful or less dangerous, they use them because it's less liability for them if the victim is injured from it.
Martin Karne on 20/9/2007 at 03:53
Quote Posted by SD
Aren't individuals entitled to decide what they will and won't respect? Isn't that what free speech is all about?
Free speech and going Rambo on your own country's flag is another thing.
SD on 20/9/2007 at 04:17
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. You want people to be criminalised for defacing a piece of cloth; I don't.
Jason Moyer on 20/9/2007 at 04:48
I don't think people should face criminal charges for defacing their country's flag. Having their citizenship taken away is another matter. I don't agree with the near-fascist fascination lots of countries have with national symbols, but I also don't have a lot of sympathy for people who can't find more constructive ways of getting their point across.
37637598 on 20/9/2007 at 04:52
Why do people hate police? Sometimes you have toput yourself in their position and realize that you have to protect yourself and everyone else and you can never know what the criminal/ person in question will do especially when they're making a scene, so you must take aggressive action. If you don't like the laws or the way the police work, go somewhere that works for you. If you yell at someone, expect them to yell back or even hit you. If you don't like it, don't yell at them. No-one really has a good reason to dis-like the police. If you disturb the peace or others lives, expect your life to be disturbed right back.
edit: what he said.
Thief13x on 20/9/2007 at 11:06
Quote Posted by 37637598
No-one really has a good reason to dis-like the police.
Are you arguing about something you don't know anything about 'just to learn about it' again? Police brutality is a very real problem in America, granted most cops are good, but there are alot of ones who abuse their power.
Some girl gunned it in her car across the street in front of my buddy riding his motorcycle. He was doing 30 in a 25 according to two other witnesses and myself, but the cop said straight to our face that we were full of shit (even though he didn't even see it) based on how far the bike slid. He slapped my freind with a 120 dollar reckless driving ticket and 4 points on his license. There are alot of good cops, but there are also plenty of bad ones, just search 'police brutality' on youtube.
*Zaccheus* on 20/9/2007 at 12:08
Quote Posted by heretic1dg
Given at least two cops versions of the account versus one proven attention hound's version I'll gladly go with the officers. Look, it's not like the police don't cover each others asses when they shouldn't at times, but you can almost understand why when people are so eager believe this sort of shit when common sense suggests otherwise.
It goes without saying there are indeed incidents worthy of scrupulous accusation, just not this one.
I don't have any reason to believe or not, but it should be noted that some details of the police's version of events have been disputed:
Quote:
University police said in a news release that officers had been summoned by the forum's sponsors to escort Meyer from the building, though organizers disputed that and said his microphone was cut off after he used a sexually explicit term.
Police added that Meyer was Tasered because he resisted when officers were attempting to place him in handcuffs. His lawyer, Robert Griscti, said it appeared Meyer was shocked after the cuffs were already on.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-09-18-student-arrest_N.htm?csp=34)
Quote Posted by Thief13x
from news reports I've read, the situation had already deteriorated before the clip started, it wasn't as spontaneous as the video suggested
Details? Links?
Quote:
University spokesman Steve Orlando said Meyer was asked to leave the microphone after his allotted time was up. Meyer can be seen refusing to walk away and getting upset that the microphone was cut off.
As two officers take Meyer by the arms, Kerry, D-Mass., can be heard saying, "That's all right, let me answer his question."Audience members applaud, and Meyer struggles for several seconds as up to four officers try to remove him from the room.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3616977)
Perhaps there is more info available which would change my view, but going by the reports so far I really can't see any reason for the police to be involved at all.
Trappin on 20/9/2007 at 12:29
He slapped my freind with a 120 dollar reckless driving ticket and 4 points on his license.Yeah that qualifies as police brutality. Effin pigs. /boggle
Details? Links?(
http://www.google.com/) google
