Supremcee on 1/8/2019 at 08:27
Quote Posted by klatremus
Thief 2 was released in March 2000. I believe the official Ghost rules were finalized around November 2000. Calendra's Legacy was released in April of 2002. I'm not sure exactly when the Supreme rules were released, but the first report with Supreme Ghost included that I could find is from May 30th 2002.
Thanks for that interesting research, maybe we ask Nex the inventor of supremeghostspeedrunning :cheeky:
klatremus on 1/8/2019 at 17:47
Listened to part of your recent podcast. Wardens are definitely crime lords, or even mob bosses, in control of certain areas of the city. In thief 1 there are Ramirez, Raputo and Webster. Raputo allegedly betrayed DeWall and took over his district. The warden affairs division is set to investigate and arrest the wardens, but they are slacking as they are themselves corrupt. There's a lot more to it but that's off the top of my head.
Supremcee on 1/8/2019 at 18:18
Quote Posted by klatremus
Listened to part of your recent podcast. Wardens are definitely crime lords, or even mob bosses, in control of certain areas of the city. In thief 1 there are Ramirez, Raputo and Webster. Raputo allegedly betrayed DeWall and took over his district. The warden affairs division is set to investigate and arrest the wardens, but they are slacking as they are themselves corrupt. There's a lot more to it but that's off the top of my head.
Thanks for all your investment klatremus :) In the Skacky episode we already talked about this a bit more, but since we recorded that after the Framed episode our investigation is kind of behind our later infos ;)
marbleman on 1/8/2019 at 18:35
As for who hired Garrett to do this job, I'm pretty sure it was Viktoria's agent. Since Hagen was cracking down on pagans, she wanted him out of the picture. The dude who gives Garrett the job also looks very paganish in the briefing.
Supremcee on 1/8/2019 at 21:00
Quote Posted by marbleman
As for who hired Garrett to do this job, I'm pretty sure it was Viktoria's agent. Since Hagen was cracking down on pagans, she wanted him out of the picture. The dude who gives Garrett the job also looks very paganish in the briefing.
interesting theory that makes totally sense....you see how stupid we are, we always need the community :D
downwinder on 2/8/2019 at 02:55
so i tried to do framed with out sewer ,but for some reason in my version the walls have some metal gate along it making it impossible to mantle on also the walls by anything you can climb on are way higher to mantle,for both right or left side
i never tried to mantle on camera yet for a direct approach,but seems like sewers is only way in on my version,not sure if its cause i updated thief 2 and they fixed the exploits
over all great cast keep up the great work,would love to see a show with bbb on it talking about his amazing missions and how much traveling they have
and a speical show with cardia on his melancholy in porto mission 1 newdark version and the pre new dark as the upgrades to rooms was amazing,even added a dog house which is amazing in thief,as i dont think second mission is connected?
Supremcee on 3/8/2019 at 14:09
Quote Posted by downwinder
so i tried to do framed with out sewer ,but for some reason in my version the walls have some metal gate along it making it impossible to mantle on also the walls by anything you can climb on are way higher to mantle,for both right or left side
i never tried to mantle on camera yet for a direct approach,but seems like sewers is only way in on my version,not sure if its cause i updated thief 2 and they fixed the exploits
over all great cast keep up the great work,would love to see a show with bbb on it talking about his amazing missions and how much traveling they have
and a speical show with cardia on his melancholy in porto mission 1 newdark version and the pre new dark as the upgrades to rooms was amazing,even added a dog house which is amazing in thief,as i dont think second mission is connected?
If I remember right, Psych0sis explained in our SpeedRun episode, that this gate was added in New Dark and that for the speedrunners it was a little annoying.
klatremus on 3/8/2019 at 20:37
NewDark doesnt add or change anything to the missions. NewDark is just an engine update. TFix includes updates to the missions, but those undergo revisions constantly. I assume the speedrunning communuty base their runs on the original missions, without any changes from third parties.
Supremcee on 3/8/2019 at 21:23
Quote Posted by klatremus
NewDark doesnt add or change anything to the missions. NewDark is just an engine update. TFix includes updates to the missions, but those undergo revisions constantly. I assume the speedrunning communuty base their runs on the original missions, without any changes from third parties.
but i'm pretty sure that psych0sis said something like it, I will force him to answer here :D
Psych0sis on 5/8/2019 at 06:21
Quote Posted by klatremus
NewDark doesnt add or change anything to the missions. NewDark is just an engine update. TFix includes updates to the missions, but those undergo revisions constantly. I assume the speedrunning communuty base their runs on the original missions, without any changes from third parties.
This is correct, base newdark doesn't change the levels at all, its the bigger scale mods like TFIX and T2FIX that do these things.
Also yes and no, we either play on OldDark (which would be the originals as intended) or Tafferpatcher/TFIX on older patches of them where things werent changed for the sake of being changed