TBE on 25/8/2006 at 15:25
Quote Posted by Renegen
Can you imagine Captain Pisard in 200 years from now saying "damn we need to evade those Kllignons, Deta please display all planets on the main screen for an appropriate getaway course" and then the 'Computer' says "CPU OVERLOAD, TOO MANY FUCKING PLANETS. HAVE FUN GETTING EATEN BY THE KLLIGNONS. "
That pod-cast would not be preety.
More like: "Beware of Klingons around Uranus." Am i rite?
OrbWeaver on 25/8/2006 at 15:29
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
itt we make demands on esoteric belief systems that we wouldnt dream of making on religious belief systems
score 1 for closed minds
If not blindly accepting absurd claims unsupported by evidence is the definition of a "closed mind", then I am very glad to have one, and wish more people would be similarly "closed-minded".
Cue Post-Modern hogwash about "alternative models of truth"...SD on 25/8/2006 at 15:47
Quote Posted by OrbWeaver
If not blindly accepting absurd claims unsupported by evidence is the definition of a "closed mind", then I am very glad to have one, and wish more people would be similarly "closed-minded".
There's a difference between not accepting something and rejecting something out-of-hand as bullshit. That's the difference between an open mind and a closed mind.
Given that celestial bodies do have very observable physical effects on this planet, I think it would be rash to completely dismiss the idea that they have other, less obvious effects too.
OrbWeaver on 25/8/2006 at 16:06
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
There's a difference between not accepting something and rejecting something out-of-hand as bullshit. That's the difference between an open mind and a closed mind.
There is also a difference between rejecting the possibility of presently-unknown phenomena, and rejecting the complex, specific and trivially-falsifiable claims of a field which originated within a superstitious society in utter ignorance of the relevant scientific principles.
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Given that celestial bodies do have very observable physical effects on this planet, I think it would be rash to completely dismiss the idea that they have other, less obvious effects too.
Indeed. It is not, however, rash to dismiss the idea that you can determine truths about yourself, others or humankind by analysing the positions of such bodies at the time of your birth, when there is no evidence whatsoever to support the rules and principles used to generate the prediction. In particular, even if we did assume that personality could be affected by gravitational forces, there would be more of an influence from the distribution of doctors in the maternity ward than the positions of the planets.
Pyrian on 25/8/2006 at 16:37
Given how thoroughly astrology has been demolished any number of times, and it's utter uselessness in making any verifiable claims whatsoever, I don't see any reason to not dismiss it out of hand.
It's worth noting, however, that seasonal differences have been shown to have effects in the womb. :D
ignatios on 25/8/2006 at 16:41
itt we make apologies for esoteric belief systems that we wouldnt dream of making for religious belief systems
score 2 for closed minds
Pyrian on 25/8/2006 at 16:45
Y'know, it's not like we haven't attacked mainstream religions on this board. :p
Paz on 25/8/2006 at 16:47
Typical Capricorns, so cynical.
Uh, or is that Pisces.
LOOK OVER THERE, YOU'LL BE LUCKY IN LOVE THIS WEEK
David on 25/8/2006 at 16:55
If I were a betting man I would put a few quid on StD just picking a fight because he hasn't done so in at least 6 hours. But then I'm not a betting man.
