Pyrian on 24/8/2006 at 23:48
Okay, so now Pluto is no longer a planet because it has not cleared out its orbit. What the heck does that mean? If they're referring to Neptune, as (
http://http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/science/20060824-1325-plutodemoted.html) this AP article states, that goes both ways - if Pluto hasn't swept Neptune out of its orbit, how can you not also reason that Neptune hasn't swept Pluto away? Wouldn't that make Neptune a "dwarf planet" (hah!) too?
If they're referring to Charon, which is more strongly held by the sun than by Pluto, then the Earth is also disqualified, since our moon's orbit is also more strongly influenced by the sun than by Earth.
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Quote:
Contemporary observations are changing our understanding of planetary systems, and it is important that our nomenclature for objects reflect our current understanding. This applies, in particular, to the designation “planets.” The word “planet” originally described “wanderers” that were known only as moving lights in the sky. Recent discoveries lead us to create a new definition, which we can make using currently available scientific information.
The IAU therefore resolves that “planets” and other bodies, except satellites, in our Solar System be defined into three distinct categories in the following way:
(1) A “planet” is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (c) has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit.
(2) A “dwarf planet” is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, (c) has not cleared the neighborhood around its orbit, and (d) is not a satellite.
(3) All other objects, except satellites, orbiting the sun shall be referred to collectively as “Small Solar-System Bodies.”
The eight planets are: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
The IAU further resolves:
Pluto is a “dwarf planet” by the above definition and is recognized as the prototype of a new category of trans-Neptunian objects.
Swiss Mercenary on 24/8/2006 at 23:53
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_the_neighbourhood)
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The phrase refers to a body "sweeping out" the area around its orbit as it forms, by causing all other smaller bodies in its orbit to accrete with it.
As a consequence it does not then share its orbital region with any other bodies of significant size, except for satellites or those collected later under its gravitational influence (such as Trojan asteroids).Pluto isn't exactly in Neptune's orbit, and the Moon is the Earth's satellite.
jbairdjr on 25/8/2006 at 00:10
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Agent Monkeysee on 25/8/2006 at 00:37
Good I never liked Pluto :mad:
Scots Taffer on 25/8/2006 at 00:43
Yeah, Uranus is more up your street, eh?
SD on 25/8/2006 at 00:48
more like your street is up uranus hey
Renegen on 25/8/2006 at 00:53
I liked that whole double planet thing Pluto/Charon had going on. I have no problem with it being called a dwarf planet now, there needs to be something seperating Jupiter and Pluto in a conversation.
Aerothorn on 25/8/2006 at 00:54
A recent poll found that only 5% of the people in Seattle know that Mercury is the closest planet to the sun. Amazing.
That said, this whole thing about what's a planet and what's not a planet...it's suprising it has got so much attention. It's just semantics.
Renegen on 25/8/2006 at 00:58
Can you imagine Captain Pisard in 200 years from now saying "damn we need to evade those Kllignons, Deta please display all planets on the main screen for an appropriate getaway course" and then the 'Computer' says "CPU OVERLOAD, TOO MANY FUCKING PLANETS. HAVE FUN GETTING EATEN BY THE KLLIGNONS. "
That pod-cast would not be pretty.
Stitch on 25/8/2006 at 01:42
I'll miss the little guy but frankly this solution makes the most sense.
now to the back of the room with Ceres young man