Please ask your basic (newbie) questions in here.

Poison Ivy on 25/6/2006 at 20:35

*prepares to leave her mark in history by asking the most newbie question ever*

I'd just like to know if there is a tutorial for the editor anywhere... Just the basics... Where to start, how to end, and so on. I've just installed the editor and the only thing I've found is a throng of intimidating tools and commands, and not even a 'help' menu.
Giant thanks to anyone who replies!!!

GlasWolf on 25/6/2006 at 21:07

*Offers the gold crown of n00bosity to Ivy*

Required bookmarks for all aspiring T3Ed-ers:

* (http://www.shadowdarkkeep.com/essentials.htm) Komag's T3Ed Tutorial
* (http://www.ttlg.com/wiki) TTLG's T3Ed Wiki
* This forum

Poison Ivy on 26/6/2006 at 21:15

*proudly bears the crown*

Thanks!

(Note, however, there's a difference between n00b and newbie)

GlasWolf on 27/6/2006 at 04:41

I didn't mean it pejoratively, of course.

RavynousHunter on 4/7/2006 at 07:01

ok, i have 3 problems with T3Ed i need solved.

#1) Where the map view and whatnot is (kinda like in DromEd where you could tour the map and edit it and whatnot) gone. Definately going to need this fixed.

#2) When i try to do the "Add Properties" thing, the menu selection comes up greyed out, im not sure if this is because i was trying to do it with an OM or what, but its annoying as crap.

#3) One of my biggest problems, i cant get the editor to run the level. i get all the way to the end of the loading screen, and it just CTD's on me. :erg:

these are the problems i need solved before i could be able to do anything w/ T3Ed.... :sweat:

ummm.. hello?

hhheeelllooo??? are you guys ignoring me? :confused: its been 2 weeks since i last edited it..... are you jackasses going to help me or not?

Thiefs_Shadow on 1/8/2006 at 22:15

This may have been covered previously, but since I'm assuming there are many Viktoria messages of death and a lot of newbie questions, I thought it might be quicker to do it this way.

Over the last 2 days I've struggled to get T3Ed (Or Ted, as I call it) up and running. The installation was fine, but my problems were that every time I tried to load a map from the game, it would just close. Then I had problems going into the game to test my own map. Having happily gotten through those problems I finally started making my mission.

But, without altering anything at all, I decided to restart my computer. When I tried to open Ted, it gave me one of Viktoria's lovely notes.

Error Message
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Unable to load static mesh 'WEPaiSWORD'!

Call Stack
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0x1124F782 T3ED! (+0x44E782)
(unknown)

0x114CC671 T3ED! (+0x6CB671)
(unknown)

0x10E495CD T3ED! (+0x485CD)
(unknown)

0x10E4AC84 T3ED! (+0x49C84)
(unknown)

0x11552EE7 T3ED! (+0x751EE7)
(unknown)

0x7C816D4F KERNEL32! RegisterWaitForInputIdle()+0x49
(unknown)

Register Info
________________________________________________________________________________
EAX=0x00000000 EBX=0x00000000 ECX=0x00000000 EDX=0x00000000
Flags=0x00000000
ESI=0x00000000 EDI=0x00000000 EBP=0x0012F534 ESP=0x0012F29C EIP=0x10F9CA30

System Info
________________________________________________________________________________

EXE Name : C:\Stuff\Thief3Edit\System\T3Ed.EXE
EXE Date & Time : 02:20:53 8/1/2006
Current Directory : C:\Stuff\Thief3Edit\System
PDB File (not found) : C:\Stuff\Thief3Edit\System\T3Ed.PDB
Current Date & Time : 08:19:02 AM 8/1/2006
Username : Chris
Computer Name : XERXES
OS Version : Windows 2000
Time Since Boot : 0 hours 30 minutes 56 seconds
Physical Memory Usage : 82
Physical Memory (Total) : 258392064 bytes (246 megabytes)
Physical Memory (Available) : 45637632 bytes (44 megabytes)
Swapfile (Total) : 632610816 bytes (603 megabytes)
Swapfile (Available) : 269385728 bytes (257 megabytes)
Virtual Memory (Total) : 2147352576 bytes (2048 megabytes)
Virtual Memory (Available) : 2068512768 bytes (1973 megabytes)

Standard DLLs
________________________________________________________________________________
msvcrt.dll - Version 7.0.2600.2180 from C:\WINDOWS\system32
msvcrtd.dll - NOT FOUND
msvcirt.dll - Version 5.1.2600.2180 from C:\WINDOWS\system32
msvcirtd.dll - NOT FOUND

DirectX DLLs
________________________________________________________________________________
dsound.dll - Version 5.3.2600.2180 from C:\WINDOWS\system32
dinput.dll - Version 5.03.2600.2180 from C:\WINDOWS\system32
d3dim.dll - Version 5.1.2600.0 from C:\WINDOWS\system32
ddraw.dll - Version 5.03.2600.2180 from C:\WINDOWS\system32
dplayx.dll - Version 5.03.2600.2180 from C:\WINDOWS\system32

Unreal DLLs
________________________________________________________________________________
Core.dll - NOT FOUND
D3DDrv.dll - NOT FOUND
Editor.dll - NOT FOUND
Engine.dll - NOT FOUND
Fire.dll - NOT FOUND
DXAudio.dll - NOT FOUND
IpDrv.dll - NOT FOUND
Render.dll - NOT FOUND
WinDrv.dll - NOT FOUND
UWeb.dll - NOT FOUND
Window.dll - NOT FOUND

App-Specific Logging Text
________________________________________________________________________________
Init: Name subsystem initialized
DestroyValue: Tried to destroy unlinked array property EnginePackages

If this has been mentioned (I couldn't see any mention in Fleshworks) please refer me to the appropriate thread so I can have a brows so I can crack on.

Cheers,
thief's shadow

GlasWolf on 2/8/2006 at 00:52

Never had this, but the most obvious suggestion: do you have the file WEPaiSWORD.tim (33k), located in CONTENT\T3\StaticMeshes\INV_WEAPON_UI\AI_Weapons? If that looks ok, it could be a path problem located somewhere in either your user.ini or (more likely) your System\DEFAULT.INI.

Also, are you using separate editor/game install directories and T3Launcher?

Crispy on 2/8/2006 at 04:34

I believe it's a problem to do with the way the game and editor directories are set up, and which installation a certain registry key is pointing to. WEPaiSWORD is only mentioned because it's the first file to load, I think.

If you use dracflamloc's Thief 3 launcher and you've chosen the right folders in it then it should work.

See these threads for more info:

(http://ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91952)
(http://ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1225107#post1225107)

Thiefs_Shadow on 2/8/2006 at 10:31

I've got both my T3 folder and my T3Ed folder seperated, but they're both in a single folder together, as well as the launcher, tutorials and things like that. Previously I'd tried the launcher with mixed results (I was having the problem where it just wouldn't do anything) and found the short-cut method worked better. I tried the launcher again and though it tried to open the editor, it came up with the same message.

So I checked for the WEPaiSWORD where you suggested I look. There is no static mesh folder in my CONTENT/T3 folder, only Skeletal Mesh, and its not in there. I haven't changed what files are here, so I'm not sure if this is the problem.

Any thoughts?

Ziemanskye on 2/8/2006 at 10:58

Erm....

If you have the correct version of TDS (as in not a legally downloaded copy, but one off a disc from a shop), and you've installed the editor to it you ought to have a CONTENT/T3/StaticMeshes folder.

If you haven't, you're ether in the wrong folder - by which I mean your game version rather than the editor-installed version, or something has screwed up royally.
(Since you have two versions - which does the editor shortcut point to?)

Beyond that though, you can create the folder just fine if it's going in the editor and complaining about missing stuff in the game.