Played Thief for years before discovering... - by Cigam
Cigam on 2/9/2021 at 06:21
It seems that Thief school is still in session. I have learned a few new things since I last posted at 2019's end.
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only just discovered a few days ago that ropes react physically when you throw objects at them! i knew explosions would make them wobble madly, but didnt realise just random debris would behave similarly.
I didn't know that either. On a similar note I've learned that you can move loot with water arrows.I was watching klatremus's T2X series and in one of the videos (mission 7) there was a loot on a shelf that you can't get to without triggering a trap. So he used water arrows to move it to the opposite side of the shelf, then went around to that side a different way, and got the loot without setting off the trap.
I was thinking "what the hell". I never knew the concept of moving loot to a more convenient or accessible collection spot was a thing.
Speaking of arrows, I was watching another Thief Gold video series by LiliaTV and they mentioned a tip passed onto them by a viewer that I hadn't really thought about. To test if a surface will take a rope arrow, you can shoot it with a broadhead first. If the broadhead sticks, so will a rope arrow.
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Also, I had no idea the sandbags in Thief Gold could be thrown at people to KO them.
Sounds interesting. But where would one find a sandbag? Sorry my mind is blank on this. Although Thieves Guild is perhaps ringing a bell?
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Only noticed recently that you can't use your mechanical eye whilst your holding any arrows, but you can use it whilst holding a sword or blackjack.
I can definately zoom in once the arrow is drawn back. I have turned off auto-bow zoom and use manual zoom. Maybe having auto-zoom on disrupts manual bow zoom?
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Played Thief for years before discovering...
... all secret doors in librarys were the same.
When I started using dromed I found out that secret doors were an object. And there was only one bookshelf shaped one, and only one 'book' button.
For years I had been clicking on every shelf, just in case. Doh.
So every time there is a bookcase with a secret book-switch the switch is always the same book in the same position? Oh my word can honestly say I never noticed that. I too was searching all over the bookcase for any frobable books :)
Cigam on 2/9/2021 at 07:00
Now I have known this flashbomb tip for years, but last year I saw a video series by Travis Whitsitt who didn't know this tip despite having played for years, so was wondering whether people generally knew about this. Did you know that you can avoid being blinded by your flashbombs if you look up immediately after throwing or dropping them, and before they detonate?
Just a couple more things I became aware of in recent times, mainly through watching other people's video series.
In Assassins that loot right in front of the chest in Ramirez's bedroom. Also the secret passage in the library.
In Mage Towers I did not realise that you could bypass the moving platforms in the Earth Tower just by shooting a rope arrow into the ceiling and climbing up. I needlessly died so many times to those platforms while earlier trying to Iron Man that mission. I couldn't believe that trying a rope arrow in the ceiling never occured to me :)
In Lost City I never knew that the tomb with the lever is modelled after the layout of a real-life tomb. Or so it appears in a side by side comparison video someon posted on this forum a while back.
In Escape! you can find your RTTC loot, near a bugbeast on the mansion ground floor I think. And I used to not bother grabbing loot in RTTC thinking it was irrelevant :)
Galaer on 10/8/2022 at 18:15
Yesterday I learned that I can kill fire elemental with one overhead swing from my sword, but only if it's unalerted. And today I learned that I can also kill with sword zombie if I whack him a lot. His body doesn't even explode.
downwinder on 10/8/2022 at 19:08
the zombie don't die with regular sword but if you keep a certain distance from the zombie he will stay down,but if you go back by the zombie to close he will rise up for some more love taps
never knew about sword and unalearted fire elemental do you get burned at all
Galaer on 10/8/2022 at 19:39
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the zombie don't die with regular sword but if you keep a certain distance from the zombie he will stay down
I played Elevator Mission (T1 version) and I killed zombie exactly with regular sword. It just takes around 10 whacks when he's down and then he will never stand up or make any noise even if you bump into him.
gamophyte on 10/8/2022 at 19:40
I found out about the fire elemental pretty early. I was standing there not moving in a kind of shock it worked after the swwwwooooppppt death sound.
On the zombs, I am not sure about that unless it was patched in. My very first play through on Craigs, I tried to kill a zomb like this and it never worked.
Edit: Saw the last reply. Maybe then I fell short, will have to try on my replay through. It was cool to find out wooden doors often unlock/open if you are willing to stay and whack.
downwinder on 11/8/2022 at 01:09
galaer if that is the case then author did something to code to change normal way zombies work=but its a cool idea,kinda like some missions you can remove there heads/etc
but normally they get back up if you get to close to them
freakiest thing i ever seen in thief is when the zombie's head only follows you,you can run around it and it will do 360 degree turns over and over,its one of the scariest things i ever seen
the mission it happen on was the fan mission using thief 3 maps in thief 2 a fire is in lower area you have to use a bucket i think to get to pagan place but there are some zombies there it happen there down the stairs
Galaer on 11/8/2022 at 07:55
I tried version 1 of this mission and this time I needed around 50 hits from sword to kill zombie.
Another thing I learned today is if you die from fall damage and grab rope later this gives you ability to move. Normally you are lying on ground, but thanks to rope you can climb up, move around if you drop from rope and even jump. It's really fun to jump as a corpse, because you are looking at an angle as dead. Of course you have only couple of seconds until screen will fade out, but that's still funny.
lordhern on 1/9/2022 at 02:10
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I tried version 1 of this mission and this time I needed around 50 hits from sword to kill zombie.
Another thing I learned today is if you die from fall damage and grab rope later this gives you ability to move. Normally you are lying on ground, but thanks to rope you can climb up, move around if you drop from rope and even jump. It's really fun to jump as a corpse, because you are looking at an angle as dead. Of course you have only couple of seconds until screen will fade out, but that's still funny.
what FM were you playing when you discovered this?
Galaer on 1/9/2022 at 09:07
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what FM were you playing when you discovered this?
Elevator Mission (T1 version), but I also encountered problem with corrupted saves and it was possible after loading game to attack him few times and then it would die permanently. So maybe that's the issue.
From new things I discovered is that it's possible to take down bigger bot with just 1 gas arrow. I always thought it requires 2 gas arrows. At least that's how it works in Sisterhood of Azura 1.