Plasma vs. LCD for game console and films?

242 on 23/11/2010 at 13:54

Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky

Permanent burn-in is exactly what you SHOULD worry about. Temporary is just that.

Well, I meant the permanent ones are nearly impossible to get with technology improvements plasma TV makers employ now (at lest I understand the current situation so), but temporary traces (if they are easy to get) could be a big problem. Thanks for the link.

Martin Karne on 24/11/2010 at 04:21

I have LCDs, and I simply hate the stupid viewing angle, color is mostly fine, about blacks, uhm what pure blacks? Is more like a washed out Obama, dammit.

SubJeff on 24/11/2010 at 08:43

Which LCDs? I have one and it's fine.

Kolya on 24/11/2010 at 12:47

So you're supposed to spend money on a TV set that then dictates what and how long you watch?
The medium truly is the message.

Rug Burn Junky on 24/11/2010 at 13:27

It's no different than driving an expensive BMW and needing to change the oil. Adults take care of nice things, children complain about them and ruin them.

242 on 24/11/2010 at 14:07

Quote Posted by Kolya

So you're supposed to spend money on a TV set that then dictates what and how long you watch?

I'm thinking about it. For the 3rd week now :laff:

The thing is it's so much closer to CRT quality in some important respects than LCD, and I'm very used to CRTs.
Much deeper blacks, natural colours, CRT-class motion resolution (great for sport channels and fast games), absolute screen uniformity (equal brightness across the whole screen), much better than LCD for SD contents too (last gen consoles and sd tv).

But those image retention problems, they're still there, HUD elements in games will surely leave traces. The question is if all the advantages really compensate the problem of IR...

Eldron on 24/11/2010 at 14:13

Quote Posted by Martin Karne

I have LCDs, and I simply hate the stupid viewing angle, color is mostly fine, about blacks, uhm what pure blacks? Is more like a washed out Obama, dammit.

LCD's come in all sorts of qualities though, but people tend to go for the biggest and cheapest.

Rug Burn Junky on 24/11/2010 at 16:09

Quote Posted by 242

But those image retention problems, they're still there, HUD elements in games will surely leave traces. The question is if all the advantages really compensate the problem of IR...

Yes, they do. Burn in really is an insignificant problem if you're careful. And it's really only short term that you have to worry about it. The first month I had my plasma, I tried to vary what I watched, and for the first 3 months I made sure not to use black bars on the side for 4:3 content (really a much bigger issue when I got my first HDTV back in '04. Nowadays there's so much 16:9 content I rarely ever watch anything not in HD). Since then? Haven't consciously though about it at all, because it's a non-issue. hours on end of gaming. Same channel/logo for hours or days on end - no problem. Natural viewing habits make this a non-issue for most people, other than like I've said, when it's brand new out of the box.

Renzatic on 25/11/2010 at 04:06

I'd say the only thing you'd have to do to fix any temporary ghosting issues would be to turn the TV off for a little while. Or if you land yourself in a worst case scenario, and have a ghosted image sticking around longer than it should, then fire up something like JScreenFix, and run it for a couple of hours.

It's like what RBJ said. Temporary is temporary. You're fretting over something that'll end up being a slight annoyance for a little bit, then just go away when you're watching a movie or something. Don't worry about it.

Martin Karne on 25/11/2010 at 05:23

Quote Posted by Eldron

LCD's come in all sorts of qualities though, but people tend to go for the biggest and cheapest.

God, no, really you're funny, no it was not by choice, I had to change them, and no they were not cheap, there is really no adjust that can mask the god damned backlight, when I'll bite again (and that is when I have to do it), it will be pure LED backlight, and maybe it will grace me with more contrast.

Of course in a very strong light you might ignore the effect because is hard to see it under those conditions.