242 on 27/8/2008 at 09:56
Quote Posted by clearing
242, read this:
clearing, do you understand that the act Russian Parliament and Medvedev did yesterday isn't supported by any civilized country in the world and more importantly - by UN? Russia broke international treaties, basically showing that it doesn't care a chip about international opinion. It's the ultimate result of the "peacekeeping" mission.
clearing on 27/8/2008 at 10:56
Don't make me laugh, again :erg:
Ok.
UN.
The invasion and occupation of Iraq IS legal? In International Law there are only two legal reasons for war: one is with approval of Security Council and another is with purpose of self-defence. Two country from NATO had not
UN mandate on invasion at the start of the war. None of these was a case hence it was an invasion and violation of International Law. This invasion undermined order and stability established by rule of Saddam Hussein and lead to chaos. So NATO in first place are responsible for this chaos that they have created. The
UN mandate was issued later and give legal right for peacekeeping there only and does not justify invasion. Actually suggest that this was illegal because war in Iraq was neither approved by UN Security Council nor was self-defence. Although Blair tried to justify point about necessity to destroy weapons of mass destructions but has failed to provide evidencies of their existence. So it was sloppy and illegal from the beginning.
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Russia broke international treaties, basically showing that it doesn't care a chip about international opinion.
And silly question again
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ONLY the US/UK/Israel may meddle in the affairs of other nations?
Matthew on 27/8/2008 at 12:06
Do two wrongs necessarily make a right? 'Everyone's doing it, so why shouldn't we'?
Starrfall on 27/8/2008 at 14:28
Is "do as I say, not as I do" much better?
edit for exposition: It's fair to ask the west to distinguish its invasion of Iraq from Russia's invasion of Georgia, just like it's fair to ask Russia why South Ossetia gets to be independent when Chechnya didn't (even if Chechnya is more or less resolved currently). Such questions provide each side with an opportunity to justify its conduct: If the west really is correct in this, then we should jump at the chance to knock such questions out of the park and further support our stance. If we dodge such questions, then it's fair to wonder whether we're condemning Russia because Russia is doing something wrong or whether we're condemning Russia because Russia is Russia.
Matthew on 27/8/2008 at 16:00
Also a very valid point!
d'Spair on 27/8/2008 at 17:15
Quote Posted by clearing
Russia to all intents and purposes is a
NEW country (no USSR!).
Which is a pity.
Quote Posted by 242
do you understand that the act Russian Parliament and Medvedev did yesterday isn't supported by any civilized country in the world and more importantly - by UN?
There are few "civilized" countries left after the Kosovo precedent.
SD on 27/8/2008 at 17:38
Quote Posted by d'Spair
Which is a pity.
Yes, a great "pity" that half of Europe isn't still living under the greatest evil the world has ever known.
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There are few "civilized" countries left after the Kosovo precedent.
No matter how much you wish otherwise, Kosovo and South Ossetia are as different as apples and oranges. Kosovo is no precedent, it was a truly exceptional case.
d'Spair on 27/8/2008 at 18:45
Quote Posted by SD
Yes, a great "pity" that half of Europe isn't still living under the greatest evil the world has ever known.
German Nazism you surely mean?
