PETA is on crack... - by LancerChronics
LancerChronics on 20/1/2009 at 12:49
Wow...this thread has changed. PETA does not equal conservationist.
I, myself, am a conservationist/enviromentalist/preservationist. I'm studying Forest Resource Conservation. However, I still love to eat beef, fish, chicken, pork... I've even had bear and deer, both which are quite delicious. I'm just like any regular joe, with the exception that if someone tried to offer me fried red panda or something, I'd kick them in the head.
PETA are NOT conservationists. They are anarchists, who want animals to be let lose in the streets thinking they will act like humans. Remember that bear guy, who thought bears had the ability to feel sympathy, then one ate him? Someone should actually give in to PETA once, then release a pitbull and a rabbit into the protesting crowd at the same time.
DDL on 20/1/2009 at 13:08
I don't think anyone is equating PETA with conservationists, here. It's just that mocking PETA is too easy, and debating conservation is more interesting.
Honestly, it would be better for the world if PETA were conservationists, since then they might think a bit before doing stupid stuff. A while back, a group of activists broke into a farm that was breeding mink for fur, and 'liberated' all the mink. Which then, being voracious predators, proceeded to munch through pretty much all the wildlife in the entire surrounding area.
I think most of them are still at large.
Nicker on 21/1/2009 at 04:40
Quote Posted by dethtoll
I would think that if animals were intelligent enough to understand the consequences of their actions that still wouldn't stop them from eating us.
Indeed, if the consequence was survival, they'd double their effort. But that isn't justification for human super-predation.
All living things are programmed to maximise their reproductive success. They will consume and multiply until some force or limitation interferes. Humans, especially in first world countries, have been able to defer that day of reckoning largely at the expense of the rest of nature and, increasingly, at the expense of other humans.
Sooner or later we will hit the population wall and corrections will be made. That alone doesn't make us more or less moral than other animals, just better tool makers. What does offer us a moral challenge is that we know the ruinous cost of our choices and yet we still make the same selfish and destructive ones, over and over.