Lord_Aginor on 29/5/2005 at 10:49
OK, I'm playing through as a pacifist, because I'd like to see the different reactions of people and the like, but I'm not prepared to be completely anal retentive about it, and try to kill no one except Gunther, Anna, and Bob Page.
So my question is, does anyone know specifically which people you can kill without it affecting anything? Is it just the terrorists in the first few levels that you can't kill? Can I slaughter MJ 12 ppl and MIBs and the like without a problem? When can I start utilising my other weapons a bit?
In terms of flags, it seems only the statue terrorists count, but I'm not sure. Any help?
Bad Breath Dude on 29/5/2005 at 14:57
You only have too kill one person in the entire game.
TheSheep on 29/5/2005 at 15:39
In the first mission, you get earache from Paul about killing (and few skill points?). Sam Carter won't give you as much gear if you go on a killing spree at Castle Clinton. The UNATCO troops are grateful if you clean out Hell's Kitchen for them. Killing important characters, of course, makes a difference. Obviously killing hostages that you're supposed to rescue can have a detrimental effect.
Apart from that, the game doesn't care.
buglunch on 30/5/2005 at 07:17
Trigger lines DO care in Castle Clinton, not just killing.
One way of going will fail pacifism with no clear warning until too late ( also look up difference between "to" and "too", guys , please: it DOES matter. ).
Careful concept analysis might guide you, but jeeeeeeez.....
:rolleyes:
Lord_Aginor on 30/5/2005 at 09:12
Quote Posted by buglunch
Trigger lines DO care in Castle Clinton, not just killing.
One way of going will fail pacifism with no clear warning until too late
How do you mean?
TheSheep on 30/5/2005 at 09:19
How do you mean? *What* do you mean?
ZylonBane on 31/5/2005 at 12:49
He's saying, in his own Babelfish way, that if you enter (or exit!) Castle Clinton through the front door, the game will assume that you went for the "killing spree" option.
Dr. Dumb_lunatic on 31/5/2005 at 13:07
Really? I thought that was done via the missionscript counting the dead guys... I notice that the script doesn't actually count dead people, just living/unconscious terrorists, so there's no check for the fact that the terrorists might've been killed by someone else. Do the guards storm castle clinton if you go in the front door? Or if you come out having left some terrorists alive and conscious?
Badbreathdude: As for only having to kill one person in the entire game, who?
You can still knock out howard strong; he doesn't need to die.
buglunch on 31/5/2005 at 13:22
All I know is I save a couple of each unusual item for story purposes and this helped me sneak around inside Castle C. from alternate entry, BUT I got non-pacifist rating going out normal way. So I reloaded and did it another.
I usually check every cranny and sneak in, rarely gangbustering into anywhere in any game until all Hell breaks loose.
Bribery and pack-rattishness and negotiation plus some luck makes things different and easier on ammo and story can change. I never kill as first option.
Except noisy dogs, hyper-alert robots and such.
It IS unfair to rate us as lethal going OUT Castle C. once everyone is stunned or out of action. Maybe it's perception-based, storywise; makes no real sense to me.
I even hate it when batons kill.
Lord_Aginor on 31/5/2005 at 14:11
Hmmm, I knocked everyone in Castle C out after coming in the back way, but then walked out the front door, so I'm no longer a pacifist?
I checked the flags, didn't look like anything like that had been set.
