Kolya on 9/1/2009 at 07:43
We're not talking about your wet dreams though.
st.patrick on 9/1/2009 at 07:56
But it would fit the OP nicely, wouldn't it?
snauty on 9/1/2009 at 11:41
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The thing that stands out about Led Zepplin to me is their use of negative space (something modern bands don't even pay attention to with the exception of Rage Against the Machine and King's X). Listen to what Page
doesn't play and realize no one had really approached the guitar in that way previously outside of blues guitar solos. He applied the concept to the riff, and dragged Bonham's bass drum along with him. There's so much negative space in songs like "Levy" or "Rock N' Roll" you start to wonder if the rhythm section just walked away in the middle of the riff. Historically speaking, it's fucking brilliant.
Very true. His use of pauses and fills in his solos on Tea for One and For Your Life demonstrate just that. I don't like RATM becuase they simply stole that whole riffing and drumming concept but ditched any subtlety. I don't know King's X. In contemporary rock Tool work in a similar way. Power by economic restrain. They also did a great cover of No Quarter.
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I read a quote once from some smart guy (I guess) who said something like:
if you're a bad and/or untalented musician with nothing to say and noone wants to play with you, you can still go for jazz.
I wouldn't quite second that, but it still makes me chuckle. And I got my fair amounts of jazz records by Miles, Bill Evans and ehm... Miles.
The pinnacle of melting jazz and rock by still staying clear of the dreaded spheres of Fusion (as they point out their fear in the album's liner notes and I think they managed quite well to do so) is the record "Roadworks Vol II - The Motorsource Massacre" by Norwegian rockers Motorpsycho and jazzers The Source (I think they're descendants from the group Jaga Jazzist) and the noise generating Deathprod (also known as Helge Sten from electronic freaks Supersilent). They more or less play along each other in their styles and it gets very weird, sometimes odd and dissonant but remains accessible and interesting.
N'Al on 9/1/2009 at 12:02
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I don't like RATM
Heathen! :mad:
snauty on 9/1/2009 at 12:03
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Maybe I've got across a tad too extreme, but I don't think they're talentless, I just think their talent is hyped way too much, especially live. I'd say some of their egos might have been bigger than their will to actually make those live shows work...They fuck up way too much for my liking.
They sure did fuck up. But I guess not because of lack of talent or big egos, but because they never held back live. They knew they might fuck up but why not trying? Some call it self indulgence, others call it artistic freedom. I'm no fan of weeklong drumsolos and stuff, but as long as the artists keeps some humour about it, I'm fine. I dunno, Zep never bore me like other classic rock acts do.
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I firstly got to know the original German Kraut Rock scene due to my dad and I can't but compare it to "classic rock" acts, whom it wins easily. So that might play a part in this all.
Well I guess it's fair to say there's much more restraint and less cock in Krautrock. All much more or even exclusively cerebral. Another planet actually. I wouldn't compare this.
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Hey, I like Deep Purple, but I didn't say they're that good. I absolutely adore the hammond organ and what Jon Lord did with it, so that's a big plus for me. Roger Glover's bass work is awesome as well, but overall, there's no denying most of their records are trash. :p
That's because I don't rate their long instrumental work that good.
Lord's distorted organ was always awesome, that leadsound for example on Hard Lovin Man. And his kicking and banging that whole monster on stage. But I never listen to their live records, they stretch their arguably good songs mostly by simple bluespatterns and -solos.
As a bassplayer, I'd always prefer Jones to Glover. Ever heard his "Elements" solo album from around '78? Weeee that's pretentious. But I actually liked it once. Jeeez. Which brings me back to topic for once. I can't think of anything overrated. But there's lots of pretentiousness and annoyances. And tons uf underrated stuff.
snauty on 9/1/2009 at 12:07
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Heathen! :mad:
lol, i went to see them live in '93 in a 1000 persons venue. they supported Fishbone. was okay. but the whole evening started with a 40min set by a band that had just released their first EP and nothing could impress me after that. the name was TOOL.
snauty on 9/1/2009 at 12:16
Quote Posted by Kuuso
I firstly got to know the original German Kraut Rock scene due to my dad and I can't but compare it to "classic rock" acts, whom it wins easily. So that might play a part in this all.
hmmmmm you might like Motorpsycho's latest record, Little Lucid Moments. 3 songs around 10 minutes and the title track around 20, split in sections. A trio, drums, bass, guitar, voice. Hardly any solos, everything is built, composed, arranged. They're fans of classic, contemporary & krautrock. Then add some indierock and some minimal steve reich influences and there you go.
snauty on 9/1/2009 at 12:23
this is way too serious.
here's overrated (as in overrated by the uninformed but you all know that):
red hot chili peppers
linkin park
nightwish
adam green
amy winehouse
michael bay
no country for old men (i love every other coen film)
fallout 3
far cry 2
bioshock
oasis
that new band whose singer looks like an 18 year old adam green
the fifth element
star wars original trilogy (meaning not better than the new trilogy)
the dark knight
ok, that's still serious.
snauty on 9/1/2009 at 12:25
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blogs, boards and any internet comments on things.
:erg:
snauty on 9/1/2009 at 12:30
annoying and extremely unsexy hags:
beyonce
aguilera
anastacia
