Queue on 8/9/2010 at 01:40
It makes you wonder what those girls that post porn of themselves on Ze Interlakens are thinking.
God Bless each of them.
Mr.Duck on 8/9/2010 at 01:42
Like real life, Internet's a lot about the context. As Scott and Stitch have illustrated. You can't treat'em all with the same way of familiarity and expect the same response.
And Internet is unreal, but many of the feelings and bonds formed there aren't, and they eventually can develop into something more meaningful and tangible in real life.
Friendships, love, colleages have been set in stone at TTLG as good as having done so in real life. Just takes, perhaps, a few more steps, but it can be done.
But you do have to be aware of how the Net's a fickle mistress and, yes, know your audience. Joking or baring your heart to people on the Net is always a risk. It's sad that things got out of hand and TBE left, but, even though I did not see the original thread, I'm sure his reaction was disproportionate. It probably could have been talked down, probably. It wasn't, shit hit the fan, he made a choice, made it very public. It was his call. Shame that it happened, I like the guy.
I also like dethy, and yes, I have very gently and friendly smacked him in some threads when I sense his constant hatred gets a bit out of hand or (sorry dethy) too old, but only in threads I like to check out. I'm not his Netguardian, he's a big boy and knows that he's bucking for a kick sooner or later, but I hope it doesn't come to that.
Me?, I've bared myself more than once over the years, and I've been lucky to have recieved warm responses, so I know it's not all about the "show'em weakness and thet'll devour you!" mentality, but hey, if you want to practice it, go right ahead.
But truly, being a dick for the sake of being one without regret nor apology's just being a silly little shit.
Just my 2 cents.
Kolya on 8/9/2010 at 01:56
Scots, your context sounds very much like Stitch's (mis)judging your audience which demagogue called not getting the internet (because everything will get said sooner or later anyway) and whom I tried to correct because he cannot speak authoritatively about what's cool on the net when his vision is coloured by sites like 4chan.
So. I guess we all agree more or less that context is important. But it's easy to misjudge and there needs to be some leniency for such mistakes. On the other hand, when you say you accept responsibility for your net persona, it seems kinda easy to say that because you know full well you cannot really be made responsible in a medium that doesn't have fixed identities.
Scots Taffer on 8/9/2010 at 02:02
No, I'm saying the right balance to strike is somewhere between the prissy attitude of "let's play nice everyone" and the laissez faire *shrug* "it's your problem" approach, and is largely influenced by what flies in that social demographic.
You can't walk into a church group and start tossing off anti-religious bon mots and talking about gay lover without expecting a reaction, you can't walk into a daycare centre and start making paedophile jokes, you can't walk into a room full of left-wingers and talk about stringent border control and religious values in schools, but none of that means you can never talk about any of those things in different environs.
Ultimately you should be able to judge the situation and decide what is appropriate, sometimes you'll get it wrong, but as long as your intentions aren't hostile or hateful you should be granted some leniency.
Tocky on 8/9/2010 at 03:35
You folks sure have a lot to say about saying stuff. To me it boils down to whether it was about pride or important things a person cares about. Not that I don't have translucent skin about every little thing and will emote vomit words at you but I forgive immediately when it's just pride and hope the same leeway is shown me. You know when the things levelled at you are true on some level. Hard to know about this "it's a trap" one.
When it's pride and you huff off then that is silly. Stand and defend or admit to being a bit goofy. We all are on occasion. Big deal. Wounded pride bleeds fatuous fabulous. But you have to worry if someone takes that too serious then it might be just a kite tethered to something real and troubling. I hope not. I like the guy. And I don't see any difference in liking a net person and anyone I might meet on the street. Does anyone take the time to construct another personality just for the net? Why? See, THAT to me would be sad. So just don't fire from the hip I guess.
On the other hand if I see a bunny with an icecream I'm thinking dinner and dessert baby. Ah hell, I might just wing him and take his cone. You never know when some small almost kindness will come back to you in a somewhat not terrible way.
kabatta on 8/9/2010 at 05:17
From the people who post half insulting, half joking posts I favor Dethtoll more. He insults, but his insults are generally funny. That's why I like to jab him with a stick once in a while. :D
But some posts can get a little far around here. The point of my initial post wa that you know to who you are talking so an unfavorable response might be a little expected.
Koki on 8/9/2010 at 06:15
I was extremely disappointed when after skipping over this thread I went to YT in search of a rock song titled "Emotional Meltdown" and I didn't find any.
D'Juhn Keep on 8/9/2010 at 08:18
I don't know if you're aware of this but that was all a hoax
june gloom on 8/9/2010 at 09:07
Evidence? I'm not saying it can't be a hoax, but given my experience/prolonged exposure to the bottom of the internet I'm more inclined to believe that it's depressingly real.
Koki on 8/9/2010 at 09:39
Quote Posted by D'Juhn Keep
I don't know if you're aware of this but that was all a hoax
Do you
know it was a hoax, or do you simply say so because you simply don't believe someone could be this fucked up?
Because they could.
Oh yes they could.