SubJeff on 19/8/2017 at 14:33
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
why would muslims be inside a church ?
Because they are human beings like you or I and may find the architecture interesting?
That's why I went into it. Certainly not for any religious reasons.
bassoferrol on 19/8/2017 at 20:11
What´s the benefit from Islam for my country and our society?
None.
From day one they demand getting benefits and payments. They give us nothing, just luck of interest for how we are and they make ghettos because we are infidels and a girl can´t even talk to me if case of need.
Tell you what, I´d like to do in their countries things that I do here. Impossible, so what´s the fuck?
Ah, and build them mosques of course. Where are the agnostics and atheists there? Imprisoned? Isolated?
But hey, we have to accommodate to their petitions.
They don´t adapt to us and I don´t have the need to adapt to them being in this part of the world.
If you don´t like this, go away. There are many countries in the world with you type of society but they seem to like the ones from this part.
Fight for your rights in your countries and don´t expand your religion here. We dont need it (well modern marxists seem to need Islam - they must know why).
Pyrian on 19/8/2017 at 21:28
Quote Posted by bassoferrol
What´s the benefit from Islam for my country and our society?
None.
...Wait, what? You're from friggen' Spain. You can't throw a rock without hitting a Moorish influence.
SubJeff on 19/8/2017 at 23:53
Quote Posted by bassoferrol
What´s the benefit from Islam for my country and our society?
Whats the benefit to your country and society from you? From any other religion?
I'm in contact with several muslims on a daily basis. Two are doctors, one is scientist and the others all work in drug development.
What do you do?
bassoferrol on 20/8/2017 at 02:02
Quote Posted by Pyrian
...Wait, what? You're from friggen' Spain. You can't throw a rock without hitting a Moorish influence.
Until very recently (how funny) moorish never were in my region and in other regions in northern Spain.
Not a single building or construction. The north of Spain is totally different to the image you have: flamenco, paella, etc is not our culture.
But if you want Islam, all for you and enjoy it.
And I can tell you that here we don´t want to be like London, Marseille, Paris, etc that look more like a nothern african city than a european one.
Multiculturalism, no thank you.
bassoferrol on 20/8/2017 at 13:43
In the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal mainland) draw a line from Barcelona to Pamplona and then from Pamplona to Porto.
South of that line all was under Islam (711-1492) some time or another.
In 1492 the remaining portion (Kingdom of Granada - 1238 to 1492) became part of Crown of Castile.
But don´t worry, nowadays is penetrating way north than ever:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx6nfzrxFc)
I would be in danger in many of their countries if my religion was other than that.
Krush on 6/9/2017 at 16:26
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You're from friggen' Spain. You can't throw a rock without hitting a Moorish influence.
Do you not understand that this Moorish "influence" was from CONQUEST? And that the Spanish struggled for 700 years to throw off the shackles of Islam? I doubt they want much of that "influence" back.
Renzatic on 6/9/2017 at 17:14
Quote Posted by Krush
Do you not understand that this Moorish "influence" was from CONQUEST? And that the Spanish struggled for 700 years to throw off the shackles of Islam? I doubt they want much of that "influence" back.
No matter where you look in Europe, you're looking at some nation that was conquered by some other people at some point in time. In Spain alone, they didn't just contend with the Moors, but the Visigoths, the Romans, and the Carthaginians. Even the damn Greeks got in on that action at one point.
Spain didn't exactly suffer under the rule of the Moors. They were one of the biggest contributors to the Late Medieval Renaissance.
You have to remember that, contrary to the backwards fundamentalism it now represents, the Islamic majority Middle East was the cultural and scientific center of the world until about the 14-15th century.
