Sgt_BFG on 10/2/2007 at 13:27
You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!
fett on 10/2/2007 at 15:45
As usual, you atheists can't prove that Cruise is *not* the Messiah. There's an overwhelming amount of evidence for it, both historical and archaeological. Hubbard's text clearly points to him as the savior in over 200 places. And don't give me that 'it depends on how you interpret it' line. Unless you understand the original language and culture in which the book was written, you can't possibly hope to grasp the finer points of the messianic prophecy pointing directly to Tom Cruise. Just because the media has made Scientology into some weirdo religion involving aliens, tin hats, and bad John Travolta movies, don't dismiss it out of hand. It's your eternal soul transcending to live aboard a giant UFO in the outer reaches of quadrant 9 that's at stake here. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Gray on 10/2/2007 at 15:54
Fair enough. I shall now start praying to Tom Cruise instantly and reject atheism forever, or until I change my mind again.
Nicker on 12/2/2007 at 03:46
Typical revisionist claptrap, fett! What did you do, crack your concordance and count the total number of times that cruise, impossible, mission and Tom appear in The Books?
Interpreting the line DOES depend on language knowledge (I am fluent in Olde and Middle SciFi, both European and North American dialects, in case you were wondering). More importantly, of course, is the matter of context – for example, the only instances of the word “cruise” being capitalised in The Books, is when it appears at the beginning of a sentence. [sarcasm] What could this possibly signify? [/sarcasm]
Of course your entire argument is moot since David Miscavige has made this a matter of canon, not merely scriptural interpretation (I trust “grok” the difference). Quite apart from his near unpronounceable name, Miscavige’s questionable claim to succession relieves him of the right to so much as nominate a saint, let alone declare a Messiah. In the absence of clear apostolic succession that is Xenu’s privilege alone!
P.S. Your Boarding Pass has been suspended until further notice.
Aja on 12/2/2007 at 03:57
tom cruise more like anal cruise
fett on 12/2/2007 at 04:15
Nicker - well of course you'd see it that way if you're interpreting the whole thing based on the 4th revised standard vision of the indefinite paraclesium. That interpretation was rebuffed in the 1980's by the Grand Overlord's ecclesiastical commission on Messianic prophecy concerning movie stars, music critics, and cable television fry chefs.
It's *quite* clear therefore that David Miscavige has absolute authority to declare canon, regardless of anyone's opinion regarding his claim to apostolic succession (which is another matter entirely).
How do you think Xenu exercises his right to declare a Messiah if not through apostolic succession? Do you imagine that some spaceship is going to drop from the sky with lasers and fog and announce it over the world's satellites? Don't be ridiculous. :rolleyes: :mad:
crunchy on 12/2/2007 at 04:17
I'm sure if anyone donates more money and recruits more people than Tom then they will become the new Messiah!
Nicker on 12/2/2007 at 05:21
If you are calling the GOECOMPCMSMCACTFC's twenty-three to twenty-one squeaker a “rebuff”, well I have a used E-Meter you might be interested in.
If I recall correctly (and since my last audit I invariably do), the vote was swayed by the famous “Icon of Saint John”. Aside from the questionable use of iconography as supporting evidence of Messianic prophesy there is the small matter of the very symbolism of the saint's gesture.
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http://www.massmoca.org/performing_arts/images/summer03/saturday_night_fever_big.jpg) Icon of St. John Dancing for the Converted
Revisionists mistakenly insist this is the “Gesture of Thetanic Ascendance”, citing the saint's use of the “Index Rampant”, touching the Light. Close examination reveals that the finger in question actually misses the light. While the artist (an unaudited infidel, BTW) perverted the essential gesture he did, in his naivety, preserve another crucial hand position. Please note the use of the downward pointing “Thumb Sinister”, symbolic of the enmiring of pure spirit in material bondage.
Scholars know that this image is actually a bastardization of the “Sign of Bicameral Schism”, the cleaving of the human brain into antagonistic aspects. Clearly the GOECOMPCMSMCACTFC erred in fact and therefore, interpretation.
Nyah nyah nyah!
failure2comply on 23/2/2007 at 15:08
Cruise is a dolt, but it shows how the masses are still willing to blindly follow. It would incredibly dangerous IMO for anyone who is not a doofus to rise far above the rest of the populace in areas of science, philosophy, whatever. Even though that person probably wouldn't want the attention, she or he would still suffer the same consequences in terms of censorship, ridicule, mass hysteria and all the rest. Fuck - what a messed up world man.
Hidden_7 on 24/2/2007 at 03:12
In all seriousness, who cares? Let's say it is true, for a second, though yeah, it seems to just be a bunch of circular buzz, generating off of itself, but let's say Tom Cruise has been named Messiah of the Church of Scientology.
What does that mean? That some idiot has been named Messiah of, if not the, at least one of the stupidest religions on Earth, not even a religion, but rather a cult.
Tom Cruise has been named saviour of a cult that has absolutely no credibility with anyone that's not some kind of celebrity out of LA?
Scientology has enough going against it, Tom Cruise being a top dog of it doesn't boost him one iota, it makes the Church look sillier.
I mean, HONESTLY? So what people, if the existence of Scientology doesn't make you reach for the bottle, why would this?
