Bulgarian_Taffer on 12/11/2006 at 09:10
Just opened a news site and... what the f*** ! Do they really intend to fly people on this?
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http://www.andrews-space.com/thumb/phpThumb.php?src=../images/pages/clv_launchpad.jpgAfter they chose the new constellation program they published some crappy videos in the typical NASA style ("Hey look, we are NASA and we're the best in space industry" ). However, as I successfully passed my physics exam, I doubt the question the whole sticky thing can fly. And as I have some sources from NASA officials and a lot of these officials are pessimistic, too ;)
The new vehicle ( Ares 1 ) will be almost as tall as Saturn 5 that sent people to the moon, so it should not be called a stick, but a heavy lolly-pop :D Now what :) it seems that even the private space companies have better project than this crap...
Lightfall on 12/11/2006 at 09:13
Are you sure that's not just another payload hauler? I'm pretty sure they were looking at fully reusable "space plane" type things for people from here on out, especially after Rutan's business proved so many of these concepts viable.
Moi Dix Mois on 12/11/2006 at 09:14
What kind of heap of shit is that?
In which bit do the Astronauts live, and is it resusable or what? How much are these going to cost and how long is it before they actually get built and used?
Fuck it I'm going to Wikipedia.
edits - Wiki says it used to be called a Crew Launch Vehical, so no, I doubt it's any kind of hauler.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ares_1)
Bulgarian_Taffer on 12/11/2006 at 09:15
Quote Posted by Lightfall
Are you sure that's not just another payload hauler?
yes, it's just another payload hauler, but the worst my eyes have ever seen.
Bulgarian_Taffer on 12/11/2006 at 09:19
Quote Posted by Moi Dix Mois
What kind of heap of shit is that?
In which bit do the Astronauts live, and is it resusable or what? How much are these going to cost and how long is it before they actually get built and used?
Fuck it I'm going to Wikipedia.
edits - Wiki says it used to be called a Crew Launch Vehical, so no, I doubt it's any kind of hauler.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ares_1)
WOW, that's a pretty good question. They intend to fly in 2008 a first stage with an artificial second stage and artificial payload, just for the test and waste of money... They hope they'll make it till 2014, but I doubt that this will even fly vertically. Hope that the next administration will cancel that shit and use existing rockets that are cheaper. The whole thing is that all of the existing rockets use russian engines for a first stage and the government won't let a russian engine to fly american astronauts. That's it.
Moi Dix Mois on 12/11/2006 at 09:20
edit - scrub that, nevermind.
I heard (down the pub probably, I forget) that the Saturn V is still the safest and 'best' bit of hardware they ever made. It seems this is based on a similar design, maybe they're on to something?
dvrabel on 12/11/2006 at 11:54
Oh what fun. Another shitty "olol US/NASA is crap" thread from Bulgarian_Taffer. Put forth some technical or economic arguments based on, and referencing, facts next time.
Also, a non-manned test flight of a manned vehicle is "a waste of money"? What sort of idiot are you?
Bulgarian_Taffer on 12/11/2006 at 14:45
Quote Posted by dvrabel
Oh what fun. Another shitty "olol US/NASA is crap" thread from Bulgarian_Taffer. Put forth some technical or economic arguments based on, and referencing, facts next time.
Also, a non-manned test flight of a manned vehicle is "a waste of money"? What sort of idiot are you?
because, my dear, they'd better make a ground test of the dynamic and avionics rather than flying with an artificial second stage. It will be cheaper and easier. Oh, I forgot to tell you that the new segment of the first stage will be empty :P holy crap! visit the forum of NASA Spaceflight and you'll see that everybody says that these tests are stupid.
Convict on 12/11/2006 at 15:21
Can America interrogate prisoners in space without violating international treaties? Not like their held to the ICC anyway though. :p
Aerothorn on 12/11/2006 at 16:00
And what about Antarctica?
