Obama and Clinton look soo good together

Morte on 30/6/2008 at 05:45

Raising taxes to pay for wars? So ridiculous! :mad:

Quote Posted by Epos Nix

Unless of course something happened to the president during his term and she were forced to take office.

Now I'm not one to cast stones, but given (http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc-body.html) odd circumstances surrounding the Clintons, something tells me Obama would be best choosing someone other than Hillary. And I very much hope he does.

The Clinton bodycount list is just (http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp) bullshit. The man can't keep a blowjob a secret, but he can kill off 30+ people? Right.

But I'm sure the people behind the smear are pleased there's still gullible people buying into it like it was 1994.

the_grip on 30/6/2008 at 13:49

Quote Posted by BEAR

Can you please offer some proof that you exist? I keep hearing similar sentiments from Hillary supporters that claim they would vote for McCain over Obama, but I just cant bring myself to believe that people so stupid could exist.

Are you familiar with what a VP does? You realize that she wouldn't be dictating the direction of the president right? I don't think he'll pick her, and I'm not sure I would care if she were VP, but her experience and support could no doubt help Obama in accomplishing what HE wants to.

So yeah, pictures, blood samples, whatever would work just fine. Anything to prove you aren't just a republican tool (then again you could be without knowing, like most tools).

Hey high fucking horse there, did i say i'd vote for McCain? Umm... no. i simply said i wouldn't vote out of spite. Hillary represents everything wrong with politics. i can't stand Bush, and i can't stand Hillary. i do like Obama. Does that ease your crying?

the_grip on 30/6/2008 at 13:50

Quote Posted by Morte

The man can't keep a blowjob a secret, but he can kill off 30+ people? Right.

LOL, that is a good point :)

And, just for the record, i did like Bill.

BEAR on 30/6/2008 at 14:56

Quote Posted by the_grip

High horse my ass, at least I'm not acting like a pre-pubescent girl pitching a tantrum because BABY WANT OBAMA and wont vote unless you do. Guess what, it isn't all about you, there are a lot of people who have been badly affected by the last president, and as such there is a lot of shit to fix. If you agree with Obama's issues you shouldn't have a problem voting for Clinton anyways. Yeah she seems like kind of a bitch and I can't stand to watch her talk either, but shes boatloads better than McCain. I think the problem is we get too much into the mindset that we have to like the president personally. It helps but if they can do the job then great. Luckily it doesn't matter because he's already got the fucking nomination, but whiny little pricks seem to be able to find any reason to pitch a fit and not vote, something the republicans undoubtedly rely on heavily.

the_grip on 30/6/2008 at 15:12

Quote Posted by BEAR

at least I'm not acting like a pre-pubescent girl

Nice commentary on the female gender there.

And until you figure out that Clinton is just playing and feeding the system as badly as any shitty politician (republican or democrat, it doesn't matter, so i don't give a shit about towing some party line here) then there is nothing to discuss here.

Sure, there is a ton of shit to fix here, but that doesn't mean any old democrat will do just like any old politician won't do. If i don't like the choices, then i do have the freedom to give them both the bird. That's not being a "whiny little prick" - that's me staying true to what i see as right. What quack told you that you have to vote at any cost because "OMFG SOME PEOPLE DONT HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE IN THEIR COUNTRY AND PEOPLE DIED OH NOES SO YOU CAN VOTEEEEE" or some other similar shit? The media? i don't buy it.

Epos Nix on 30/6/2008 at 15:31

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The Clinton bodycount list is just bullshit. The man can't keep a blowjob a secret, but he can kill off 30+ people? Right.

Well isn't it obvious that SHE DID IT???

DUH

Ghostly Apparition on 30/6/2008 at 18:27

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I noticed your hasty republican assumption in there ghostly but I'm voting for neither them or the dems and have affiliated myself with moderates since i've been in college. No I don't make 250k+ interning (very flattering assumption though) but apparently I am being taxed almost like I am.

I don't know anything about multibillionairs (neither does Obama apparently) but I do know that 250k+ is gonna get hit 40% when he's elected. Why cry about those "filthy rich CEO's?" well, I've worked for 2 small family-owned restaraunts which both have gone out of business and both reported annual earnings of 250-350k. So...GO GET THOSE FILTHY CEO's, eh ghostly?

Otherwise, who gives a shit...take those bastard's money and give us some! I aint gonna spend a decade in school!:nono: (recognizing, of course, that some don't have to, such as Al Gore)

First my post never said anything about your being a republican, but just about every point of view you express on here says you believe what they're telling you.
Second, if the family owned restaurant has gone out of business already you can't blame obama's tax policy for it as he hasn't been elected yet.
Maybe it was bad location? or lousy food? or maybe just bad management.
But blaming a presidential nominee before he gets elected is just stupid.

Plus the link I posted was not the incomes of the local family owned restaurant.

Zygoptera on 30/6/2008 at 21:39

Have to admit I'm lollin' at Stitch's "Obama has to be as welcoming and respectful as possible" when, as per near every political thread on the internet the Obama supporters have spent the vast majority of their posting time saying that Hillary is worthless and that toys would be thrown from the pram if she was picked for VP. Yeah guys, that really says you value her supporters so much and will really endear you to them. Triumphalism and True Believerism are not appealing traits.

Then again, I have to admit I'm pretty stunned by the near messianic aura some ascribe to Obama when all I see is a visibly different, charismatic politican who uses the word 'change' like I use commas- a US version of Tony Blair, basically.

Stitch on 30/6/2008 at 21:49

Quote Posted by Zygoptera

Par for the course with your political analysis. Obama supporters need to understand that it was a bloody primary and all's fair and it's time to extend the olive branch. At the same time, though, it's not necessary for them to pretend like your interpretation of reality holds any merit whatsoever. Obama won't pick Hillary not because she said mean things that hurt his feelings so much as he's smart enough to recognize that she brings more problems than solutions.

You seem to misunderstand his appeal, as well as the race in general.

SubJeff on 30/6/2008 at 23:15

Whereas you understand all black people. Naturally, or just in general?